Posted September 23rd, 2012 - 6:24 pm by 
from Alytus, Lithuania (Permalink)
from Alytus, Lithuania (Permalink)I didnt get, what you are trying to achieve.
Just expressing my own opinion:
Vegetarism/veganism is for the cause of general peace, inner peace, outer peace, peace of the mind, also health issues. What this app does it doesnt bring any peace whatsoever. If someone knows or dont knows these numbers, it will affect just a few, who maybe turns into vegetarianism/veganism. Those, who still eat meat, will create more anxiety in themselves.
Also, has to be considered a cold regions of our planet, where people has no choice, just to eat animals for feeding own family, on survival level (they do raise animals, which later will end this life, from the same hand, which was feeding the animal).
I heard some explanation - that these people should try to live on sprouts. Would someone wants to try -30 celsius, with sprouts ? Question how you would sprout something in these temperatures ?
Another solution suggested was - to order things to be delivered, during the cold seasons. Then it comes another issue - with the petrol, which been used to deliver product - by ship, truck etc. How many situations/things is standing behind this petrol ?
Fix your garden, check your kitchen cupboards - is there any delivered, non local food and make your change, enjoy your life.
All the best
Just expressing my own opinion:
Vegetarism/veganism is for the cause of general peace, inner peace, outer peace, peace of the mind, also health issues. What this app does it doesnt bring any peace whatsoever. If someone knows or dont knows these numbers, it will affect just a few, who maybe turns into vegetarianism/veganism. Those, who still eat meat, will create more anxiety in themselves.
Also, has to be considered a cold regions of our planet, where people has no choice, just to eat animals for feeding own family, on survival level (they do raise animals, which later will end this life, from the same hand, which was feeding the animal).
I heard some explanation - that these people should try to live on sprouts. Would someone wants to try -30 celsius, with sprouts ? Question how you would sprout something in these temperatures ?
Another solution suggested was - to order things to be delivered, during the cold seasons. Then it comes another issue - with the petrol, which been used to deliver product - by ship, truck etc. How many situations/things is standing behind this petrol ?
Fix your garden, check your kitchen cupboards - is there any delivered, non local food and make your change, enjoy your life.
All the best
Posted September 23rd, 2012 - 11:38 pm by 
from Langley, United States (Permalink)
from Langley, United States (Permalink)Hi, Son of the Sun,
You say, "What this app does it doesnt bring any peace whatsoever".
I didn't know peace was our objective.
I thought ending the suffering of our fellow creatures at our hands was the objective.
Things aren't peaceful now: people kill people, people kill fellow creatures, etc.
Ugly. And cruel. And so below our capabilities.
Peace cannot come here: there is too much chaos, too much violence, a total lack of compassion, and no clue as to where we want to go.
We'll have to solve all of the "little" problems first: like, how to stop being cruel to each and all others and live a life of compassion where we don't murder each other ever again.
(2) Stop trashing the planet.
(3) Accept new technologies: pull your mind out of the past: we CAN talk to each other all over the planet, we CAN change our energy sources, we CAN provide delicious, nutritious vegan meals to EVERYONE on the planet (hey: that's what NASA is is creating for our team going to Mars in a few years. Imagine: the first "Martians" will be vegans! LOL! If they can have delicious vegan meals, so can all of us here on Earth. ;D
Cherie
You say, "What this app does it doesnt bring any peace whatsoever".
I didn't know peace was our objective.
I thought ending the suffering of our fellow creatures at our hands was the objective.
Things aren't peaceful now: people kill people, people kill fellow creatures, etc.
Ugly. And cruel. And so below our capabilities.
Peace cannot come here: there is too much chaos, too much violence, a total lack of compassion, and no clue as to where we want to go.
We'll have to solve all of the "little" problems first: like, how to stop being cruel to each and all others and live a life of compassion where we don't murder each other ever again.
(2) Stop trashing the planet.
(3) Accept new technologies: pull your mind out of the past: we CAN talk to each other all over the planet, we CAN change our energy sources, we CAN provide delicious, nutritious vegan meals to EVERYONE on the planet (hey: that's what NASA is is creating for our team going to Mars in a few years. Imagine: the first "Martians" will be vegans! LOL! If they can have delicious vegan meals, so can all of us here on Earth. ;D
Cherie
Posted September 25th, 2012 - 1:15 am by from Alytus, Lithuania (Permalink)
from Alytus, Lithuania (Permalink)Hi, Cherie,
One of reasons, why i dont eat animals is a whole peace, by not causing the harm to others.
Looks yours objective is not a peacefull... ? If not peacefull,then question why not ?
What is your objective ?
Dont want to sound selfish, or ego, but i do my part fully. It means i had ended the suffering.
Its your objective, my if i want (therefore i want, already it is my objective/life style), also anyone who wants to have this objective in own counscious and free will.
Things aren't peaceful, if the mind is not peacefull. People love people, help each other and treat with love, respect and care.
Proverb: The things are not that way, we see them, but they are the way we are.
Many things happening: (better clear mind, to be able to control all issues in life).
People ending life, from starvation (if localy, they dont know how, or doesnt have possibilities to grow other types of food.) Would you like to be in his place ? Or would you like to help him, by showing how to grow own food in a place where he lives ? This might require certain skill, to try if and how its possible to grow local food. Because sugestion, to order things doesnt solve the problem. Petrol, oil is one of a reasons, why some wars is happening. Also in a sea living creatures is dying from various spills. So, please be specific, what is your objective and what you're trying to save ?
If its ugly and cruel, be the opposite example, so people
who really wants, they can follow you.
Are you clear where you want to go ? Peace has to come to the mind, to the consciousness.
You want to live in the better world, like most of the people. Also to solve the "little" problems first.
Well, really we all should sort our own LITTLE problems.
If people would be more aware, about themselves, consciousness, peace of the mind and many other things, this would change the world and solve these "little" problems, that you are talking about.
You want to change the world ? Change your world first.
I do trash the planet, trying minimum as possible, to do my part - by
using less as possible imported food, items
when i was hitchhiking, travelling, walking i always had a black bin bag to pick the rubish (sometimes it was one/two or more bags per day and every day). Do till now, having idea to throw away some rubbish mostly from nature, sometime cities...
Do you do your part ? If yes, how ?
If you want to pull your mind out of the past - you welcome to do so. What if others dont like the future, or presence and wants to live in the past ? Do they have to do it, because you do it ? You might be a good person, but sorry dont see any humanity in this.
Speaking about energy sources, what kind of source you are using for general day tasks ?
I use a electricity that comes from the companies, where later bill has to be paid, but looking forward to use electricity made by solar, wind or water.
So, this idea i like - to provide delicious/nutritious/healthy/bio meal for everyone. How this can be achieved ?
When people loose something, they need something else instead, food diet is not exception.
To say, to convince people, that they have to change, without consideration usually is nothing more, just a ego.
I wish everyone good luck and doing own part, towards the better and peacefull world.
All the best
One of reasons, why i dont eat animals is a whole peace, by not causing the harm to others.
Looks yours objective is not a peacefull... ? If not peacefull,then question why not ?
What is your objective ?
Dont want to sound selfish, or ego, but i do my part fully. It means i had ended the suffering.
Its your objective, my if i want (therefore i want, already it is my objective/life style), also anyone who wants to have this objective in own counscious and free will.
Things aren't peaceful, if the mind is not peacefull. People love people, help each other and treat with love, respect and care.
Proverb: The things are not that way, we see them, but they are the way we are.
Many things happening: (better clear mind, to be able to control all issues in life).
People ending life, from starvation (if localy, they dont know how, or doesnt have possibilities to grow other types of food.) Would you like to be in his place ? Or would you like to help him, by showing how to grow own food in a place where he lives ? This might require certain skill, to try if and how its possible to grow local food. Because sugestion, to order things doesnt solve the problem. Petrol, oil is one of a reasons, why some wars is happening. Also in a sea living creatures is dying from various spills. So, please be specific, what is your objective and what you're trying to save ?
If its ugly and cruel, be the opposite example, so people
who really wants, they can follow you.
Are you clear where you want to go ? Peace has to come to the mind, to the consciousness.
You want to live in the better world, like most of the people. Also to solve the "little" problems first.
Well, really we all should sort our own LITTLE problems.
If people would be more aware, about themselves, consciousness, peace of the mind and many other things, this would change the world and solve these "little" problems, that you are talking about.
You want to change the world ? Change your world first.
I do trash the planet, trying minimum as possible, to do my part - by
using less as possible imported food, items
when i was hitchhiking, travelling, walking i always had a black bin bag to pick the rubish (sometimes it was one/two or more bags per day and every day). Do till now, having idea to throw away some rubbish mostly from nature, sometime cities...
Do you do your part ? If yes, how ?
If you want to pull your mind out of the past - you welcome to do so. What if others dont like the future, or presence and wants to live in the past ? Do they have to do it, because you do it ? You might be a good person, but sorry dont see any humanity in this.
Speaking about energy sources, what kind of source you are using for general day tasks ?
I use a electricity that comes from the companies, where later bill has to be paid, but looking forward to use electricity made by solar, wind or water.
So, this idea i like - to provide delicious/nutritious/healthy/bio meal for everyone. How this can be achieved ?
When people loose something, they need something else instead, food diet is not exception.
To say, to convince people, that they have to change, without consideration usually is nothing more, just a ego.
I wish everyone good luck and doing own part, towards the better and peacefull world.
All the best
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Posted September 25th, 2012 - 1:46 am by from Alytus, Lithuania (Permalink)
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Posted September 29th, 2012 - 11:05 am by from Alytus, Lithuania (Permalink)
from Alytus, Lithuania (Permalink)Well, if there is excuse, there might be a reason for it. Dont you think that way ? Would you go to a very cold place - lets say north of Russia, or one of Scandinavian countries, also south - where is very hot temperature, that plants needs a lot of water, attention ? To try, to experience life all year round, also to help people, to grow own food. To be an example, how it is possible to be vegetarian during all seasons.
Dont want to offend anyone, but in my opinion to create a app, doesnt solve the problem. Just shows the existing problem, that most or all people familiar with.
I wish both of you a lot of sun in your way.
Dont want to offend anyone, but in my opinion to create a app, doesnt solve the problem. Just shows the existing problem, that most or all people familiar with.
I wish both of you a lot of sun in your way.