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Independent Women would appreciate Male Support
Posted July 10th, 2007 - 8:27 pm by from Melbourne, Australia (Permalink)
Hi gentlemen, and new ladies,
it's good to see the group is becoming more active.

Some of you may or may not know, there is an issue at the moment of accusations that a male couchsurfer inappropriately touched a female couchsufer. It really concerned me, so I decided to try to do something about it. It seems that my interest in the issue has won some support with the Independent Women's group, and I encourage you to read the posts become informed, and if you share a similar view, which, I hope you do, ask to join the group to post your support.

Someone is presenting a very serious issue and seems to be being ignored by males, and this is just not on. As men, and women, in this group, I would like to see some effort to show the Independent Women's group that we stand up against this and it is unacceptable...

Please click on this link to see what I'm talking about

http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=892&post=266271

If you disagree with what is being said, please explain why, and if you support it, please make an effort to post, even though you will have to email the moderators of the group, if you explain why, I'm sure they will want you in the group, I'm sure it would mean a lot to hear other males are standing up for a female.

Please show that as men we support women too.

Posted July 17th, 2007 - 3:00 pm from Mumbai, India
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Posted July 18th, 2007 - 6:08 am by from Melbourne, Australia (Permalink)
Have you read the post? Have you read my arguments? You're missing the point. I didn't say that either were right, I said there was a lack of support, and arguments against her were generally off the topic.

Now, that is truth for you, the arguments are off the topic and not right, and there is a lack of support for Saskia,

So are you going to stand up for that truth?

Posted July 18th, 2007 - 8:36 pm from Mumbai, India
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Posted July 19th, 2007 - 4:59 pm by from Melbourne, Australia (Permalink)
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY SOMEONE NEEDS SUPPORT. The reason we should support her is in the post. Because most of the conversation is off the topic of what she said. She said she was touched. And people started saying she was embarrassing and drunk, yes maybe, but if someone said they didn't want to be touched, that's all they should have to say. Most of the talk in that post is off the topic of what she is saying.

So, is your argument, because he has support that we should give it to him?

And if you don't want to support her, ok, don't. Maybe someone else here would like to.

Posted July 19th, 2007 - 6:52 pm by from Brantford, Canada (Permalink)
This hurts my heart.... I read that because something has NOT BEEN RESOLVED then we shy away.....

This is why some people male or female lack a voice... showing support helps someone amplify their voice and be heard...


How quick we are as humans to pick sides and especially with gender issue's....
how incredibly ALONE Saskia must feel... and how silent her voice must now be...

This is why their is a lack of anyone coming forth... because it is easier to go through it alone then brace yourself for such a back lash...


It is little wonder that sexual assault is the least-reported crimes. Perhaps it is the only crime in which the victim becomes the accused and, in reality, it is she who must prove her good reputation, her mental soundness, and her impeccable propriety.
- Freda Adler

“Sexual assault (harassment) is the only crime in which the victim becomes the accused.”



Are we to be lazy with our strength of heart ... I feel sick to know that the majority of people would rather not get involved to avoid egg on their face or to have to "deal" with people telling them to hush up....


Dear Beer raider....
life is neither black nor white.... and sometimes the needs to be believing before seeing....
I wonder if your sister mother daughter wife or friend came to you and let out such a statement would you believe her or advise her .... hey sweetie let's wait until this is resolved because I just can't make up my mind until 12 other people on a jury do it for me.

then again... there is what is called instincts and a "knowing" of what is right and wrong....

and when following the posts it is obvious that REGARDLESS of what happened ... the aftermath of character assassination's for her just even "daring" say this.. is incredible....

So what am I supporting... I am supporting the belief that no matter what each one has a voice that should be heard and even more so when it was a violation of self...

I employ my judgement and know how DIFFICULT and BRAVE she would need to be to admit this on a public platform and then be dragged through the mud....

So I show my support by asking my fellow brothers to show their strength and their much needed wisdom to re-educate how we re-act... such as the "wait till it is resolved"


peace and respect.
amylyn

Posted July 20th, 2007 - 7:25 am from Mumbai, India
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