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Posted February 15th, 2008 - 8:04 pm by 
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)damn thats fucking not enough, esp cool locations are missing ;-)
I´ll care for some more informations on bluebox, depot, phil and some others asap when I´m back in 3 weeks.
misssss u a lot vienna!!!
I´ll care for some more informations on bluebox, depot, phil and some others asap when I´m back in 3 weeks.
misssss u a lot vienna!!!
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Posted March 13th, 2008 - 10:21 am by 
from Danbury, England (Permalink)
from Danbury, England (Permalink)Can someone please do a list out about the tunnel, i dont know all the information. I feel its bad that tunnel was left out of the poll but i see it was because the information was not in this group so i fell its bad when some people showed preference to the tunnel, and you said that once the polls came people could show if they wanted to go back to the tunnel. So can someone please fill in one of these for the tunnel and add it to the poll, or make a new poll. If not it should be added for next month. i didnt post this in the Vienna group as i am not trying to complain and start a fight. i was disappointed that it was not in the list because in the vienna group you said we would have a choice to go back to tunnel with a poll.
also vorstadt was great.
also vorstadt was great.
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Posted March 14th, 2008 - 12:31 am by from Danbury, England (Permalink)
from Danbury, England (Permalink)seriously that you posted it without the tunnel was crap, you promised that you would put it in there. a lot of people liked it best there. the price are the best. the waitresses are a lot nicer than at vorstadt, they were pushy and mean at times in vorstadt and they have a massive selection of food that is cheap.
but that you made the poll without discussing it in here was crap. couldnt we have decided on it ifrst before doing this, or was it posted in the austria amb group that i couldnt see. im sorry, but i was just really disappointed, why we need this poll three weeks before the stammtisch without discussing it with the whole team i do not know.
but that you made the poll without discussing it in here was crap. couldnt we have decided on it ifrst before doing this, or was it posted in the austria amb group that i couldnt see. im sorry, but i was just really disappointed, why we need this poll three weeks before the stammtisch without discussing it with the whole team i do not know.
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 2:08 am by 
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)Hey people,
common how long would you want to discuss it? It's already mid March and we have to find a location for the next Stammtisch.
I left Tunnel out, clear, but that was because no one here cared about Tunnel. Thomas and me filled out the list as good as we can, but we never organized a meeting at Tunnel. So I just took all the places where there was information and made a poll with them.
From my point of view this group clearly fails, because after 2 months or don't know how long the only results are from Thomas and me.
If you want Tunnel, why don't you fill out this List? We did it for our Locations, and there are at least 3 people in this group who organized Stammtisches at Tunnel.
Also I think that Tunnel gets too small for us and the smoking situation is not good there, but I posted an Idea here of how to get more/bettere place in Tunnel ... with how many answers ... zero. So why the hell should I care about Tunnel?
Stefan
common how long would you want to discuss it? It's already mid March and we have to find a location for the next Stammtisch.
I left Tunnel out, clear, but that was because no one here cared about Tunnel. Thomas and me filled out the list as good as we can, but we never organized a meeting at Tunnel. So I just took all the places where there was information and made a poll with them.
From my point of view this group clearly fails, because after 2 months or don't know how long the only results are from Thomas and me.
If you want Tunnel, why don't you fill out this List? We did it for our Locations, and there are at least 3 people in this group who organized Stammtisches at Tunnel.
Also I think that Tunnel gets too small for us and the smoking situation is not good there, but I posted an Idea here of how to get more/bettere place in Tunnel ... with how many answers ... zero. So why the hell should I care about Tunnel?
Stefan
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 2:18 am by from Danbury, England (Permalink)
from Danbury, England (Permalink)Once again, I said I didnt know all the information about the tunnel, so i asked if somebody else could do it, simple as that. I dont speak german so id dint organise a lot. It was as simple as, i walked in and had lunch with abe, we asked if we could reserve the front area for 80- 100 people, and they said yes, we asked if we could have more than one waitress, and they said yes, and we asked if we could pay when the food came, and they said yes. That was that. The tunnel is big enough, we just havent taken up much of it. We have always taken the same place. The left, we can also take the right of the door, and upstairs. Downstairs i think would be out of the question as there are normally gigs going on, we would need to hope for a stammtisch on a day without a gig. we could ask to make the side to the right of the door non smoking, smoke would get in, but not as much. the door would give it some ventilation. People did care about tunnel in here, as I always have, and you all know thins, I made this perfectly clear. Why should you care about the tunnel? Beacause a lot of couchsurfers in Vienna care about it?
Why should you discuss with the team here before making the poll, because we are the st org team, we could at least be informed this is being posted. i dont check the group that often, normally just my emails in gmail that get sent out, i didnt even know there was a poll until 30 people had voted. not nice for the people who are supposed to be organising it not to know. and also, its mid march yes, but right now it is the 14th, stammtisch happened on the 8th, less than a week. we are not pressed for time on this as there is a month between stammtisches and 6 days has passed, 4 had when you made the poll.
if you tell me this was posted in the austrian org group, that you were gonna poll thats fine, but if not, why did you have to open a poll already without saying, hey im opening a poll now, what do you think, its the last chance, i will add this this and this pub, anybody want to add any more information on a pub before i make the poll official, how hard is that little morsel of respect?
Why should you discuss with the team here before making the poll, because we are the st org team, we could at least be informed this is being posted. i dont check the group that often, normally just my emails in gmail that get sent out, i didnt even know there was a poll until 30 people had voted. not nice for the people who are supposed to be organising it not to know. and also, its mid march yes, but right now it is the 14th, stammtisch happened on the 8th, less than a week. we are not pressed for time on this as there is a month between stammtisches and 6 days has passed, 4 had when you made the poll.
if you tell me this was posted in the austrian org group, that you were gonna poll thats fine, but if not, why did you have to open a poll already without saying, hey im opening a poll now, what do you think, its the last chance, i will add this this and this pub, anybody want to add any more information on a pub before i make the poll official, how hard is that little morsel of respect?
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 9:30 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)Spyro ... nice that you care sooo much about being in the ST Organisation Group. But if you care about the poll, then it would also be nice if you care about the rest of this group and start doing something.
Asking if anyone wants to add more information would be too much respect for me, the group is more or less inactive, Infos should have been here a long time ago.
Yeah it was sort of discussed in the Austrian CS Organisation Group that we make a poll.
And there is pressure, we want the meeting message 2 weeks before the Stammtisch and it has to be organized. And organizing sometimes means more than calling them once.
Stefan
Asking if anyone wants to add more information would be too much respect for me, the group is more or less inactive, Infos should have been here a long time ago.
Yeah it was sort of discussed in the Austrian CS Organisation Group that we make a poll.
And there is pressure, we want the meeting message 2 weeks before the Stammtisch and it has to be organized. And organizing sometimes means more than calling them once.
Stefan
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 10:12 am by 
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)hmmmmmmm
first i think it is a wonderful and amaaaazing step that we had a poll. thanks stefan!
but i would of course appreciate having tunnel on the list next time.
btw i volunteer to do the
june
july
august
or september stammtisch.
whatever suits you guys best.
(i can't do may because i am not here)
xxxxC
first i think it is a wonderful and amaaaazing step that we had a poll. thanks stefan!
but i would of course appreciate having tunnel on the list next time.
btw i volunteer to do the
june
july
august
or september stammtisch.
whatever suits you guys best.
(i can't do may because i am not here)
xxxxC
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 10:16 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)please correct me if i am wrong.
so far we have:
Tunnel
Café Merkur
Centimeter VII
Kriterium
Vorstadt
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 11:37 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)Christine, if you want Tunnel in that list then fill out the list.
It's not that hard, but it shows some minimum info or maybe shows us what info we need about Tunnel.
Another thing about the poll, I think we decided to not include the winner of each months poll in the next poll(s) or?
Stefan
It's not that hard, but it shows some minimum info or maybe shows us what info we need about Tunnel.
Another thing about the poll, I think we decided to not include the winner of each months poll in the next poll(s) or?
Stefan
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 1:31 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)ok
sorry
1: Tunnel
http://www.tunnel-vienna-live.at/tunnel/index.html
2: Size adequate for 80-100 people? YES
2.a: No seperate room for us but there is a second floor the other guests could use. Bonus: Live music in cellar sometimes.
3: Public transport and nightlines close by? YES N43 goes along Alserstrasse.
3.a: Which bus/metro/tram/nightline stops are close by? Closest Public Transport: Tram 5 and J and Bus 13
Nightbus N43 goes along Alserstrasse
4: The personnel's opinion about hosting the ST: They are fine about it
4.a: Name of our contact person: Stammtisch has been reserved by various people. Just call 01/947 57 20
4.b: Contact method: see above
5: Any special offer for the ST? NO
6: Is there a "Mindestkonsumationspflicht"? NO
7: Extra service at the ST/English speaking waiters? YES
8: Do they have menus in English? YES
9: How long could we stay there? What time does the pub close? Closing time is 2 a.m.
10: Is it possible to "pay on delivery"? YES
11: Could we have a sign on the street or in the pub to direct people to our group? Probably
12: Our evaluation with points from 1 (No!) to 10 (Top Location).
I'd give it a decent 6
sorry
1: Tunnel
http://www.tunnel-vienna-live.at/tunnel/index.html
2: Size adequate for 80-100 people? YES
2.a: No seperate room for us but there is a second floor the other guests could use. Bonus: Live music in cellar sometimes.
3: Public transport and nightlines close by? YES N43 goes along Alserstrasse.
3.a: Which bus/metro/tram/nightline stops are close by? Closest Public Transport: Tram 5 and J and Bus 13
Nightbus N43 goes along Alserstrasse
4: The personnel's opinion about hosting the ST: They are fine about it
4.a: Name of our contact person: Stammtisch has been reserved by various people. Just call 01/947 57 20
4.b: Contact method: see above
5: Any special offer for the ST? NO
6: Is there a "Mindestkonsumationspflicht"? NO
7: Extra service at the ST/English speaking waiters? YES
8: Do they have menus in English? YES
9: How long could we stay there? What time does the pub close? Closing time is 2 a.m.
10: Is it possible to "pay on delivery"? YES
11: Could we have a sign on the street or in the pub to direct people to our group? Probably
12: Our evaluation with points from 1 (No!) to 10 (Top Location).
I'd give it a decent 6
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 1:34 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)oh, and
the map
(quite useful for the meeting invitation)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Florianigasse+39,+Josefstadt+1080+Vienna,+Wien,+Vienna,+Austria&ie=UTF8&sll=48.214179,16.374907&sspn=0.022706,0.058365&z=15&ll=48.213921,16.348128&spn=0.011353,0.043259&om=1&iwloc=addr
the map
(quite useful for the meeting invitation)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Florianigasse+39,+Josefstadt+1080+Vienna,+Wien,+Vienna,+Austria&ie=UTF8&sll=48.214179,16.374907&sspn=0.022706,0.058365&z=15&ll=48.213921,16.348128&spn=0.011353,0.043259&om=1&iwloc=addr
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 1:52 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)oh, and
1: KENT & http://www.kent-restaurant.at/
2: Size adequate for 80-100 people? YES seating for up to 120
2.a: What kind of location is it? In the 16th district a seperate room in the cellar (we can bring our own music) in the 15th part of the restaurant
3: Public transport and nightlines close by?
http://www.kent-restaurant.at/bg/page/Bilder/anreise.jpg
YES
3.a: Which bus/metro/tram/nightline stops are close by?
U6 Josefstätterstrasse Tram 33 and J
4: The personnel's opinion about hosting the ST:
Very happy to.
4.a: Contact method:
01/405 91 73
5: Any special offer for the ST?
NO
6: Is there a "Mindestkonsumationspflicht"?
NO but they want min. 70 People. Not really a problem I think.
(Even mindestkonsumation is not really a problem but i really don't like the idea of paying rent anywere).
7: Extra service at the ST/English speaking waiters?
They speak enough English I think.
8: Do they have menus in English?
Not sure can anyone remember?
9: How long could we stay there?
This is the BEST PART:
They stay open as long as we want we just have to tell them in advance :)
10: Is it possible to "pay on delivery"?
YES
11: Could we have a sign on the street or in the pub?
Sign in the restaurant with directions to the cellar is more important in this case.
12: Our evaluation with points from 1 to 10
I'd give it a great 8.
----------------------------------
In the 16th district we get the whole cellar (we can bring music etc.) in the 15th district we get part of the restaurant.
----------------------------------
Wir bieten Ihnen die Möglichkeit, ab 20 Personen unser Kellerlokal für Ihre Feierlichkeiten zu mieten.
Die Räumlichkeit steht Ihnen GRATIS zur Verfügung.
Bei uns können Sie zum Beispiel
- Hochzeiten
- Geburtstage
- und viele andere besondere Ereignisse
feiern.
Nähere Informationen unter 01/405 91 73
1: KENT & http://www.kent-restaurant.at/
2: Size adequate for 80-100 people? YES seating for up to 120
2.a: What kind of location is it? In the 16th district a seperate room in the cellar (we can bring our own music) in the 15th part of the restaurant
3: Public transport and nightlines close by?
http://www.kent-restaurant.at/bg/page/Bilder/anreise.jpg
YES
3.a: Which bus/metro/tram/nightline stops are close by?
U6 Josefstätterstrasse Tram 33 and J
4: The personnel's opinion about hosting the ST:
Very happy to.
4.a: Contact method:
01/405 91 73
5: Any special offer for the ST?
NO
6: Is there a "Mindestkonsumationspflicht"?
NO but they want min. 70 People. Not really a problem I think.
(Even mindestkonsumation is not really a problem but i really don't like the idea of paying rent anywere).
7: Extra service at the ST/English speaking waiters?
They speak enough English I think.
8: Do they have menus in English?
Not sure can anyone remember?
9: How long could we stay there?
This is the BEST PART:
They stay open as long as we want we just have to tell them in advance :)
10: Is it possible to "pay on delivery"?
YES
11: Could we have a sign on the street or in the pub?
Sign in the restaurant with directions to the cellar is more important in this case.
12: Our evaluation with points from 1 to 10
I'd give it a great 8.
----------------------------------
In the 16th district we get the whole cellar (we can bring music etc.) in the 15th district we get part of the restaurant.
----------------------------------
Wir bieten Ihnen die Möglichkeit, ab 20 Personen unser Kellerlokal für Ihre Feierlichkeiten zu mieten.
Die Räumlichkeit steht Ihnen GRATIS zur Verfügung.
Bei uns können Sie zum Beispiel
- Hochzeiten
- Geburtstage
- und viele andere besondere Ereignisse
feiern.
Nähere Informationen unter 01/405 91 73
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 2:01 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)is this the right thread for posting?
confused as usual
confused as usual
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 2:25 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)Very good, never gave a thought about having a list about KENT in this group.
Maybe better if you post each one in a seperate thread .. or both of them in one thread together.
Stefan
Maybe better if you post each one in a seperate thread .. or both of them in one thread together.
Stefan
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 4:00 pm by from Danbury, England (Permalink)
from Danbury, England (Permalink)Why do you need a meeting message two weeks before the Stammtisch? Myself , abe, michael, isa, christine and I dont know who else were talking about this a few times. The stammtisch is always on the same date, and usually same time, around 7ish. People don't need to be told 2 weeks in advance, honestly a lot of people, except for the new people, probably wouldn't need more than 2 days in advance. They know its on, they just need to know where. I don't mind you wanting to organise everything in advance, that is cool, but all this is crazy. I organised the November stammtisch about 5 or 6 days beforehand and it was the biggest one to date. People just need to know where its on, the rest most of them know.
I like the meeting updates people send a few days before the stammtisch for anyone that was not a member when the first message was sent. Also, now this may surprise you but I would like it if the meeting messages were sent in German as well as English, although austrians are amazing and almost all speak english, it would be nice to send the message out in german as well. Just like I think it would be cool to have the Vienna group with a german description too.
Saying the group which was set up to organise the stammtisch doesn't deserve respect because people are not as active as in the Vienna group is crap. I think im gonna be in india for the next stammtisch, and im kinda glad about that.
I like the meeting updates people send a few days before the stammtisch for anyone that was not a member when the first message was sent. Also, now this may surprise you but I would like it if the meeting messages were sent in German as well as English, although austrians are amazing and almost all speak english, it would be nice to send the message out in german as well. Just like I think it would be cool to have the Vienna group with a german description too.
Saying the group which was set up to organise the stammtisch doesn't deserve respect because people are not as active as in the Vienna group is crap. I think im gonna be in india for the next stammtisch, and im kinda glad about that.
Posted March 14th, 2008 - 6:41 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)No it is not crap, because the group should not be a "discussion group" but a working group. I posted the info about the pub I had ... at least. I also must admit I could have done more.
But it looks as it's getting better.
We discussed Meeting Message 2 weeks in advance at one of the Ambassador Meetings and I think it's a good idea. Well most of the active people know the date, but what about people who don't live in Vienna. Like Bratislava or Budapest and so on. Or just a little bit outside of Vienna.
Maybe they know it, but would you organise yourself a trip to Vienna if you know: Yeah they had Stammtisch on every 8th (if you know that) but nothing is organised till now.
Also not every pub organizes waitresses in 5 days, some (I think Vorstadt is one of them) need more time for that.
Stefan
But it looks as it's getting better.
We discussed Meeting Message 2 weeks in advance at one of the Ambassador Meetings and I think it's a good idea. Well most of the active people know the date, but what about people who don't live in Vienna. Like Bratislava or Budapest and so on. Or just a little bit outside of Vienna.
Maybe they know it, but would you organise yourself a trip to Vienna if you know: Yeah they had Stammtisch on every 8th (if you know that) but nothing is organised till now.
Also not every pub organizes waitresses in 5 days, some (I think Vorstadt is one of them) need more time for that.
Stefan
Posted March 15th, 2008 - 2:45 pm by 
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)In my humble opinion, you can never have too much information. Especially when visitors to the Stammtisch are traveling unknown distances to be there.. With regard to location, I think its beneficial to have a poll as we do, but list all the alternatives too...
Maybe we should meet up prior to finalising the Stammtisch locations for polling in the future??,
You will never please everybody all the time, but that's just life. At the end of the day the location doesn´t make the Stammtisch, the people do...
Ok peeps...
Back to the sick-bed.....
S.
Maybe we should meet up prior to finalising the Stammtisch locations for polling in the future??,
You will never please everybody all the time, but that's just life. At the end of the day the location doesn´t make the Stammtisch, the people do...
Ok peeps...
Back to the sick-bed.....
S.
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Posted March 17th, 2008 - 6:59 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)Right on.....
Einverstanden...........
I agree..........
S.
Einverstanden...........
I agree..........
S.
Posted March 18th, 2008 - 7:44 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)it should not be a problem about the polls.
only the ambs can do polls in the vienna group and they all know not to do random polls, right?
only the ambs can do polls in the vienna group and they all know not to do random polls, right?
Posted March 18th, 2008 - 7:45 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)yeeeey, isa.
for not making descisions for the vienna people :)
hug
for not making descisions for the vienna people :)
hug
Posted March 18th, 2008 - 7:42 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)opinions vary
a lot. i guess silvanis is right. one can never please all people.
e.g: i had a request from a bratislavian to remind him a few days in advance because the stammtisch invite came too early.
a lot. i guess silvanis is right. one can never please all people.
e.g: i had a request from a bratislavian to remind him a few days in advance because the stammtisch invite came too early.