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Posted October 30th, 2012 - 1:44 pm by from La Plata, Argentina (Permalink)
hey ! el 90% de lo que escribi era fuera de joda... pero evitaste responderme (a mi y a los demas) .. eso dice el manual K?

no esquivo preguntas... y cuando me cruzo alguien ultra K dialogo, y siempre se queda sin respuestas.... loco no? sera que no tienen un pundo de vista bien formado o que fueron demasiados superficiales al "elegir" una postura pòlitica.... se quedan tan estupefactos como al cura que le preguntas en que parte de la biblia estan los dinosaurios..

me quedo con la frase del abuelo... "el que sabe sabe....y el que no se caya la boca" ...

arma otro post asi seguimos divirtiendonos sanamente y en familia !

Happy Surfing
Zorba

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Posted October 31st, 2012 - 8:10 pm by from Buenos Aires, Argentina (Permalink)
La verdad que no Pablo, no insulto a la gente.
Decirle a alguien inciherente no es insultarlo. Decirle a alguien ridiculo quizas sea un poquito mas fuerte, pero tampoco lo consiero un insulto.

En cualquiera de los dos casos, justifique el por que te lo dije.
En vez de decir que sos coherente podrias demostrarlo, para variar, y quizas te crea.
Si es verdad que razonas por tu cuenta, tambien podrias expresarlo en el foro, si no no me puedo dar cuenta.

Wow, me aprendo el manual K y me creo de izquierda! Revolucion Copernicana, veo un Nobel en tu camino...

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Posted November 1st, 2012 - 7:20 pm by from Buenos Aires, Argentina (Permalink)
por donde empezar ! a ver !



"...desde el 2011 pueden efectivamente cambiar cosas fundamentales (se necesita mayoria parlamentaria)..."

"...Bueno, ponele que no puse gestion, que puse este "gobierno" o este "ejecutivo+legistaltivo"..."

"...El patrimonio de Cristina: no etico tal vez, ilegal no es. Ya se denuncio a la justicia y ya se demostro que es todo legal. Ya se que para el caceroludo la justicia existe solo si falla a favor de Clarin...."

"...El INDEC: el fin justifica los medios..."


Pablin...te das cuenta que estas describiendo un sistema de gobierno que no es una republica. Argentina fue concebida como una republica...por ende...lo que tu gobierno iluminado esta haciendo, y lo que vos defendes ciegamente, va en contra de argentina !


otra...vivis insultando y atacando a la clase media.....eso signfica, nuevamente, apelando a la logica mas pura y basica, estas de acuerdo con el siguiente esquema:


CLASE BAJA + CLASE ALTA


teniendo en cuenta las politicas de asistencialismo social, cuyos presupuestos se han incrementado en varias decenas de millones estos ultimos años, y el constante atosigamiento a la clase media, mayormente en forma de impuestazo, directo e indirecto....se desprende que del esquema propuesto, el mayor porcentaje es el de clase baja.

por ende se obtiene..

Un pais no republicano compuesto por una gran clase baja y una pequeña clase alta que le "solucione" sus problemas a los miembros de la clase baja !

yo, y asumo muchos millones mas, el pais que queremos es ...

un pais republicano (con division de poderes) compuesto por una enorme y poderosa clase media, una clase alta (legitima solo si se ha llegado por merito propio y legal y al cual, todos los demas, de cualquier clase que sea, puede llegar, siempre y cuando, sea por merito proptio y legal) y una clase baja, que lejos de ser idolatrada, se la trata de erradicar, es decir, se intenta que los miembros de esta clase puedan pertenecer, lo antes posible, a cualquier de las otras dos y solo a los que por el momento, no puedan hacerlo, asistirlos en todas sus necesidades.


Este es el motivo por el cual yo (y asumo muchos otros), nunca podre tener una discucion seria con un soldado de cristina (como se autodefinen ellos). lo que ellos quieren hacer con este pais va totalmente en contra de lo que yo quiero. principios como "el fin justifica los medios" van en contra de un pais con estado de derecho, por dar un ejemplo.

O sea, para pablin, y los suyos, esta perfecto que no haya division de poderes, es mas, es escencial para su proyecto !

Cuando los legisladores K levantan la mano automaticamente por orden de cristina, eso les parece perfecto.

Cuando la justicia tambien responde a cristina y persigue solo a los designados por ella y perdona bajo el mismo criterio (...Ya se denuncio a la justicia y ya se demostro que es todo legal...), esto tambien es lo correcto

Que cristina y todos sus ministros y jueces sean millonarios (todos a partir de ser funcionarios publicos) esta perfecto, es lo que el modelo dicta


En conclusion...lo que yo y muchos otros criticamos..para los soldados de cristina, como pablin, son de hecho, bondades del modelo, para ellos, todo esta llendo como debe ir...por eso no logran entender el malestar de la gente no K ...pq para ellos, esta todo llendo 10 puntos............Finalmente, es por eso que se refieren a las no-k como antipatria..el pequeño detalle es que la patria que ellos defienden no es argentina....

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Posted November 1st, 2012 - 7:51 pm by from Buenos Aires, Argentina (Permalink)
Pablin, no hables conmigo, refuta lo que escribo....medio jodido que puedas hacer eso..primero, pq bue, sos K, por ende, tenes el cerebro lavado y la capacidad de pensar bloqueada, pero segundo, porque todo lo que hice fue mostrar tus propios dichos y luego algunas conclusiones logicas.....si insultas a la clase media todo el tiempo...la logica dicta que estas en contra de la misma....sin clase media, te queda solo clase baja y clase alta (a la cual, graciosamente, nunca insultas..hmm, es probable que pq la kris y todos tus idolos pertenecen a la misma...insultas a todo palermo pero no decis nada de puerto madero) ......si esto no tiene sentido, como dijiste...es simplemente porque tus ideas y principios no lo tienen.....sino, refutarias o corregirias !

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Posted November 2nd, 2012 - 6:44 pm by from Buenos Aires, Argentina (Permalink)
pablin pablin ! por dios...


perdon mi preguntonta...pero sabias que te reina lo acaba de salvar al carlo y todos los involucrados en el caso armas hace poquito ?? the circle of life como decis vos !! que te pensas que esta negociando eyya con tu padre patrio el irani buenudo !!

El pais de los industriales ?? jejejeje si, los chinos !! aca no se produce nada !! de ultima, es el pais de los ensambladores de cajitas y tergopor..a, y el año de los politiocs ñoquis .... y finalmente ...la decada de las villas....es lo unico que prospero exponencialmente en la era KK ...eso y la guita de la familia real !


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Posted November 13th, 2012 - 4:31 pm by from Buenos Aires, Argentina (Permalink)
Interesante...

http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-207689-2012-11-13.html

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Posted November 6th, 2012 - 4:52 am by from Buenos Aires, Argentina (Permalink)
hmm, aca hay un tema, y pienso que es el motivo principal por el cual nunca un pro chavez/cristina (que son la misma bosta con distinto olor) y un anti gobiernos chorros podran ponerse de acuerdo. La explicacion que da luis, por demas demostrativa de la realidad en venezuela, repleta en experiencias personales y de gente cercana (en opuesto a pura teoria barata) es que, a alguien que apoya a chavez o a cristina, le parece muy bien todo lo que vos describis. Estan totalemten de acuerdo con que un pais se menaje asi. estan totalmente de acuerdo con las listas negras (pero nacionales y populares), estan totalemten de acuerdo con congresos y jueces obedientes al rey de turno, con la persecucion a los que estan en contra de la verdad revelada, a los que expresan discrepancias (hasta las mas minimas), etc, etc, etc....uno les habla asumiendo que ellos estan en contra de estas cosas, pq se auto proclaman progresistas, y que simplemente no ven que esta es la realidad, y por eso estan a favor...lamentablemente, saben muy bien cual es al realidad y la aceptan y apoyan totalmente....yo hace rato ya que a los soldaditos de cristina, frente a las muertes, los afanos, los atropellos a cuanta ley este vigente, los considero COMPLICES, participes necesarios !

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Posted November 6th, 2012 - 3:18 pm by from Luxembourg, Luxembourg (Permalink)
Me pregunto cual seria el gobernante ideal para aquellos que detestan al gobierno actual. Realmente creen que cualquier otro de la opo meteria al carlo en cana, no tranzaria con los gordos ni haria pactos con algun multimedio ?

Otra pregunta que me hago es los que dicen que Argentina esta gobernada por una dictadura, vivieron alguna vez durante alguna dictadura? Solo como para tener un punto de comparacion.

Besis


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Posted November 6th, 2012 - 8:16 pm by from Luxembourg, Luxembourg (Permalink)
Banca yo no digo que no hay que criticar, el pensamiento critico es fundamental. Pero ni un solo comentario constructivo, todas quejas. Que no puedo comprar USD, que hay corruptos, que hay inflacion....
Vos te pensas que si mauri arranca maniana, vuelven los dolares, la tecnologia barata, las golosinas del primer mundo? Que la policia (corrupta) te va limpiar los motochorros de un dia para el otro?

Un ejemplo de un pais que transformo su reputacion ( a fuerza de mano un poco mas dura que la que tiene el gobierno actual) es Georgia, pero les tomo 10 años.

No veo que los que pablo llaman de caceroludos tengan un plan, solo quejas

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Posted November 6th, 2012 - 8:40 pm by from Luxembourg, Luxembourg (Permalink)
No me refiero a que las amas de casa le manden un plan al kici con lo que hay que hacer.
Pero me parece tambien descabellado pedir que vengan politicos a salvarnos. No.
La militancia es parte del proceso, el pueblo forma los lideres. No hay una escuela de politicos donde "hola soy candidato"

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Posted May 14th, 2013 - 2:12 pm by from La Plata, Argentina (Permalink)
Hey y la ayuda a los inundados de La Plata que dijo la señora Fernandez por cadena Nacional?.... yo perdi todo, hasta mis herramientas de trabajo en ANSES no me dan subsidio por no tener ni plan trabajar ni asignacion por hijo u otra cosa asi, en los bancos no me dan credito porque no tengo trabajo? como es la onda? tengo que ser un chorro y cobrar alguna mierda de esas del ases, ser vago atorrante piquetero y ahi si me ayudaban?. el resto son creditos bancarios de siempre a tasas como las que habia, DONDE MIERDA ESTA LA PUTA AYUDA A LOS INUNDADOS? la anunciaron y se la AFANARON, mentirosos hijos de puta. Pablo aun crees en ellos? ... esta no me la contaron, la estoy viviendo, sigo comiendo arroz fideos polenta, todo lo que mis amigos me trajeron, la unica asistencia del estado fue una bolsita de veneno para ratas (seguro que si la dejaban en la municipalidad se morian ellos por ratas)..... seguro que en el clarin no esta, en pagina 12 tammpoco, pero mira mi muro de facebook y comprobalo...

Este modelo es UNICAMENTE para los que afanan

hace unos dias me dijeron que era un gorila por pensar asi..y amigos realmente prefiriria ser gorila antes que planero


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