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May I have your opinion about a mess of subgroups.
Posted January 10th, 2012 - 11:54 am by from Gifu, Japan (Permalink)
Everyone is free to create a subgroup and become its moderator. Moderators of parent groups do not have any 'power' on the subgroups. It is very important. On the other hand, there are many subgroups in Japan. The problem is that some inactive subgroups, which have been un-posted for a long time, are annoying to find a proper or active subgroup. That is to say, they are diluting useful information for members. The worse is that nobody would manage it.

Now I am willing to do something to settle this problem if you agree to me. Any comment is welcome. Thank you.

Nobu

Posted January 10th, 2012 - 2:22 pm by from London, England (Permalink)
Hi Nobu,

Thank you for making this group active again so that we can share opinions to make things better.

What we could do for sub-groups would be:

1. Put a guideline in Japan group to indicate sub-group can be created only after discussion with moderator in Japan group. In this sense it's quite important to review guidelines for Japan group.

2. Then list up all sub groups to see which one is active, which one can be combined with other(s), which one can be removed, or which sub-group's name can be changed to more appropriate name.

3. Based on the results above, contact CS to get unnecessary sub-groups removed.

4. Update sub-group name, description to be more accurate.

(I did a similar thing for London group before.)

Cheers,
Toshi

Posted January 10th, 2012 - 3:26 pm by from Sevilla, Spain (Permalink)
yes yes,I agree with you,Nobu san.
This kind of things are happening other countries and cities,too.
I've seen Montreal,Canada and Toulouse,France groups have done same thing. cleared up the unnecessary sub-groups.
Here,in Milan is very strict to create a sub-group,unless you have a clear vision to make one or expect some amounts of members are willing to join.

Viva CS Japan!

Takashi

Posted January 10th, 2012 - 4:40 pm from Tokyo, Japan
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Posted January 10th, 2012 - 9:37 pm by from Gifu, Japan (Permalink)
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Posted January 11th, 2012 - 10:21 am by from Gifu, Japan (Permalink)
Thank you for the response, Toshi, Takashi and Philip.

Your Comments gave me food for thought. Honestly I don't still have a blueprint for menaging subgroups. I have a work for living, so that I'm not sure if I can continue to be involved in this group. I think I should not go for the best. It will exhaust me like Yuki-san.

What I want to do now is to put a mess away. To go for the better, I have tentatively contacted to CUQ. They said, on behalf of the Japan CS Organization, I can ask to move inactive groups to a container group, so called ARCHIVED/Used group. Once it is done, many inactive subgroups will disappear from the main page. I will have a plenty of time to think next steps after that.

Please continue the discussion. I'd like have many opinions from active CSers in Japan. That's is the reason I tried revitalizing this group. Hopefully it comes to organize CS Japan.

Nobu

Posted January 11th, 2012 - 10:49 am from Musashino, Japan
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Posted January 11th, 2012 - 2:10 pm by from London, England (Permalink)
Hi Nobu,

Please take it easy to deal with this as yes we all have a reality outside of CS and sometimes we simply can't have time. So no rush, but let's do what we can when we can.

Regarding Eric's comment, I agree with you, but might be an idea to send out PM to moderator in each group to inform to get agreement prior to moving their sub-group(s) - they can say something if there's any special reason why it needs to be there rather than in an archive even though there hasn't been any activity in a certain period of time.

Cheers!
Toshi

Posted January 12th, 2012 - 4:51 am from Musashino, Japan
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Posted January 12th, 2012 - 9:43 am by from Gifu, Japan (Permalink)
Yes, I am at the head now!

Thank you for suggesting, guys. To start with, I've just created a container group, ARCHIVED/OLD. I'm mentioning how to moderate subgroups there. Please have a look.

http://www.couchsurfing.org/group.html?gid=49447

What I want to say is below.

- The Japan CS Organization, not me, is in charge of moderating subgroups.
- The Japan CS Organization, not me, will ask CUQ to move inactive groups if necessary.
- CUQ, neither the Japan CS Organization nor I, will take a final decision.
- Anyone can take them back if they take an action. Precisely speaking, they are not archived but still alive.

As to definition of inactive groups, I could not judge what kind of groups should be moved. Even if someone's post seems nonsense to me, the poster thinks it is important. That is to say, different people think differently. After all, I came to think we are not authority. Therefore I collected up names of the inactive groups which have been unpasted for the last three months. And I've asked to CUQ how many months are enough to take an action. That's all I've done so far.

Nobu

Posted January 12th, 2012 - 11:08 am by from Gifu, Japan (Permalink)
I did it! One small step for a man, one giant leap for Japan CS organizetion.

I'm still talking to CUQ. Some questions on criteria occurred me. 

Nobu

Posted January 12th, 2012 - 1:33 pm by from Gifu, Japan (Permalink)
Hi Philip,

I originally replied to you two days ago but deleted it shortly. Because what I wanted to talk here was how to clean up subgroups. Now I made it.

I guess you want to talk about the role of this group. Shall we talk it in a newly created thread? I'd like to hear many opinions from members.

Nobu

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Posted January 10th, 2012 - 9:46 pm by from Gifu, Japan (Permalink)
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