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hallo and quick question about the fee for short stay visitors
Posted December 1st, 2009 - 4:42 pm by from Berlin, Germany (Permalink)
Greetings friends in Budapest,

I was aware for a while you host a winter camp this year. I didnt really pay attention as last your, the camp in Berlin, was alright but not my greatest CS party ever.

Now I checked the meeting page for your meeting and WOWOWOW so many people... that makes me thinking. As you have common accomodation, that sounds way more promising to me than individual hosts do....

so here is my situation. I have to write my final paper, I hate it, I have no time but still make trips all the time. If I could ever make it to Budapest, it is a VERY tight frame for time and also for money. I could go by bus (orangeways from Berlin) overnight, for 80 euro return. I assume, I would arrive 30th dec and leave Jan 1st. I would only stay 2 nights.

Surely Budapest is great, I did visit it in Summer 2008 so I am not pressured to come to see the nice city, but for the event. That makes me believe, 2 days would be enough...

Now, who do I have to talk to for the ticketing? I feel like 75 Euro for the 6 day pass is way to much, I cant spend that. But if you have options for 2 days, and if I can negotiate better options, maybe that would make me think...

BTW, disclaimer: I havent read anything else for the camp. Maybe you are already booked out and write everywhere, that there are NO reductions no matter how long a Couchsurfer stays? If so, sorry that I spam your group...

But yeah, what do you think about my situation?


Posted December 1st, 2009 - 5:11 pm by from Paderborn, Germany (Permalink)
Hi Caspar,

if you manage to change the organizer's mind in this question, I will be very happy, and also join the camp...

I asked a similar question before and they answered that they cannot make any discounts for short-time participants. I (and some more people from Germany, Poland and ??) decided not to visit the camp for this reason. Nevertheless we will go to Budapest and meet there, and we are really looking forward to participating in some of the outdoor events. Maybe you want to join us? But it won't be easy to find an accomodation for NYE :-(


Posted December 1st, 2009 - 5:52 pm by from Berlin, Germany (Permalink)
ah they charge 75 euro no matter how long you stay? Well in that case I would definately not go.. It isnt like this is the most important thing for me.. just if i make the time frame work and if i only pay 80 euro bus, some small fee for the camp, have the meeting with the common accomendation for 2 nights and go home, it could be good fun...

but my odds are rather small.. If it is 75 Euro no matter how long, I accept and stay home, even though I think that is A LOT of money..

anyway, i ll see what the official feedback is. Even if they say: ok come 2 days and pay 30 or 40 Euros, I dont know if it will really work..


Posted December 1st, 2009 - 7:10 pm by from Krakow, Poland (Permalink)
Silvia, me and my friends would like to join;)
We'll be in Budapest from 31 of December so we can organize some meeting and NYE outside the camp together.
I think there are more this kind of people who will be there in this time:) I hope so:)

Posted December 1st, 2009 - 7:18 pm by from Berlin, Germany (Permalink)
puh, i didnt mean to start a movement against the camp organizer, sorry... I was just wondering if it is cheaper for short term visitors.. i guess 75 euro for 6 days is totally ok..

Posted December 1st, 2009 - 7:24 pm by from Budapest, Hungary (Permalink)
Hi Caspar,

first, the fee is 40 EUR if you book online. It was so calculated, that we give a lot of programs, and reserve the best places in Budapest. The winter-camp consists lot of programs, events (17), some meal, vouchers. The problem is with shorter stays, that we simply cannot manage it...there will be possible to buy just ticket for the NYE party - if there will be left. It will be at Citadella, and the place was not easy to get...
Of course, the other choice would be that we ask for nothing and give nothing - but that choice I will not take, cause that will be now the best wintercamp ever!!!

For example, there will be a lottery somewhere, where somebody will win two airline tickets (hope I won't be killed why I told this secret :) )

On the other hand, if there would be possible to buy one-two day tickets, people would think it is just a cheap hostel - and would use it as that. It is definetly not :)

Posted December 1st, 2009 - 9:44 pm from Berlin, Germany
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Posted December 1st, 2009 - 10:05 pm by from Berlin, Germany (Permalink)
Hey Raffy,

thanks... I scrolled thru the huge participants list and there are plenty of faces I havent seen in a while. Seems like many of the Paella 2008 people are in :P And yes, I have spoted you on the list.... :P

Anyway, this wont work for me, due to money and especially time.. :(

I am not a big NYE friend. Ashley will be with ehr friends in Manhattan grrrrrrrrr :( So my initial plan was to stay with my dog at my parents appartment and hate everybody (my dog is so afraid of the firecrackers and always has a terrible time new years).

Recently, there are thoughts about organizing something own on Berlin CS. But I assume, it is little to short notice and probably it will end out to become just something like a normal CS meeting. OF COURSE I hope we will have something HUGE in Berlin and I would help to make it happen ;)

So no plan. Maybe some of you saw, there will be a new years party in Gdansk, Poland. The organizer just posted it all over the neighbor groups I guess. As I have never been there, and it is way closer and cheaper to reach than Budapest, I am thinking all the time about how I could build a small carpool with some Berlin CSer. Of course, it wont be a huge winter camp..
Thats the thread btw, in case you search for alternatives to Budapest... http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=639&post=4418119
kidding, of course Budapest camp will be a BLAST!

so I will stay in this group and check it occasionally and will spice it up occasionally with my general negativ mood and all my adorable english spelling mistakes... :P

But I regret, I wont make it to the Budapest camp.

@ Raffy, I still hope you can make it here to Berlin one day soon, would love to see and host you.

@David Pillar: meet you one day.. I am really curious about this secret flight now... :P

@Abdras Foldvari: as usual, very impressing to look on your profile..

@Olivia from Brazil (who i saw on the meeting page and hosted in 2007): wtf are you living in Cologne now???? :P

@everybody that knows me: have a good time and hope to see many of you again in 2010..

@everybody else who attends: Budapest, I like it and I think the hungarian salami is excellent!

Man, you can all see, I am here at work and have way to much time to write groups posts...

Regards, hugs and "big love" to you guys

Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 7:08 am from Munich, Germany
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Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 7:10 am from Munich, Germany
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Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 8:21 am by from Budapest, Hungary (Permalink)
You can still wait 2 more weeks until the organizers find out if there is some places left in the camp. Then - as it was communicated at least 100 times - the camp site will be open for shorter stays.

So until then pls. do not confuse CSers with an alternative option.

Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 8:57 am by from Berlin, Germany (Permalink)
I really think I do sound positive. I mentionend I just read about the camo the first time and i have no knowledge about what was asked here before and what not.

No I can understand that you organizer are busy and stressed. Berlin 08 organizer (i have not been one) were stressed for months. But frankly, it seems like that some people are unhappy about the conditions. Not me, I accepted that it wont work for me and that i cant go already a few hours after i posted this and realized it doesnt work in my favour.

You guys cant stop people having a different opinion than what the organizer decide is the best. I accept your conditions, for me it isnt a big deal. But dont try not to allow other opinions..


Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 9:01 am by from Budapest, Hungary (Permalink)
Hi everyone,

as part of the organizing board I can assure you that this is a truly non-profit event where the ogranizers have been working for half a year until now.

All the programs we arrenged and calculations we made were optimazed for CS-ers. We are all in the organization for quite a while now and want to give you unforgottable experiences.

So even if you decide not to visit the camp and just meet privately outside, please do not discuss/arrenge/organize it in the group created for the Winter Camp, as it may cofuses those who would be happy to take part in this superb event - even if for a few days.

We are doing our best to solve the challenge of short term stayers.

Hope to welcome you anyway,

Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 9:55 am from Munich, Germany
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Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 10:02 am by from Berlin, Germany (Permalink)
I never meant to debatte about if anybody benefits from this fee. Hard to believe if you read this out of my lines.

I am pretty sure the camp will be great and if you can stay for the entire time, those 75 Euros will be definately well invested, I think.

Good luck with the camop and take care.

Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 10:35 am by from Budapest, Hungary (Permalink)
@ Caspar:

Please check out wintercamp's site again: 6 day ticket with accommodation costs 60 EUR if you pay in advance. Without accommodation you have to transfer 40 EUR.


I hope this information helps you to change your mind and you will join your friends. Organizers will do their best to make you a NYE fan!



Posted December 2nd, 2009 - 6:44 pm by from Budapest, Hungary (Permalink)
Greetings from Frankfurt..
I can just repeat previous statements that we organize a CAMP, and we organizea a New Year Eve party for the Campers, and when we have free places availab we shall welcome other registered surfers and members of other hospitailty communities.
We have decided how this will be organised, and many other communities will have a chance in years to come to organie it with an other concept.
We welcome all surfers to our Camp, as discribed..
We haev made oudoor events available for or surfers not only Campers, so there will be planty of opportunity to socialze and enjoy the hospitatlity of our City.
Welcome !! cheers Andras