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Boots N All article - The End of a Dream: Couchsurfing’s Fall
Posted May 7th, 2013 - 3:12 am by from Tuross Head, Australia (Permalink)
Gday from Downunder,

This article appeared in my inbox this morning from BootsnAll.com

The End of a Dream: Couchsurfing’s Fall by By Nithin Coca

http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/13-05/couchsurfings-fall.html?utm_source=BootsnAll+Travel&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ced40b97da-RSS_EMAIL&utm_content=Yahoo!+Mail&utm_term=0_8a70cf8bb4-ced40b97da-285789393

an interesting read

enjoy
lei

(also posted in Brainstorm group)

Posted May 7th, 2013 - 5:17 am by from Oss, Netherlands (Permalink)
Reading this article makes me feel really sad.
Though I have to admit that it is the truth.
I often organize meetings and with every new change it is becoming a new frustration.
Though my hope for improvements is vanishing.
Last week I had a bike trip with a new Couchsurfer. She was so happy with the network and this event as a bicycle trip was a very nice way to get to know new people. She also read on my profile that i'm very experienced and she asked me why I like Couchsurfing so much.

I feel like I don't know what to tell anymore what is so fun about Couchsurfing nowadays.
I told her I hoped she had found couchsurfing earlier between 2008-2010 when we used to have a great and active community. Now the soul is gone out of it already.

I can't find any reasons why I should be happy anymore about the site.
Maybe anyone can tell me what is better in 2013 than what it was in 2010?
I try to keep on organizing but with probably new changes i won't be able to do that anymore.

:-(

Posted May 7th, 2013 - 6:36 am by from Tuross Head, Australia (Permalink)
Maikel,
i still receive Couch requests from excellent CSers (new and old) that follow the philosophy of the old CS - they come from people who have thought about their profiles, have sought out CS experiences through meetups and coffess, have built up references and who do contribute as best they can to their fellow CSers through the enjoyment of cultural exchange and by hosting when they can (or intending to host). These are the same faces, the same souls that we were back in days of old and i am ever hopeful that the philosphy hasn't changed, just the software. Back then there were those with empty profiles, those who were in CS only to party and date and in between all the debris of empty unused profiles were the travellers - and they existed and waved the flag of what CS could be during all the political upheaval and Casey fiasco....

and they are still there - and whilst they remain and whilst new, right minded CSers come on board i have hope and remain with CS as it has enriched my life considerably through those i have met

It may be different now however it is still intrinsically the same

yours in optimisim

BTW this was my reply on BootsNAll to the above article

Nithin said "Gone are the wikis members built over years and the popular city message boards, replaced with “location pages” with open, newsfeed like conversations of short comments."

For those not familiar with the Couch Surfing Wiki pages that were removed by the new broom these were pages filled with absolute passioante, accurate, timely information on Cities, Safety and local information written by passionate local Couchsurfers for any prospective visitor to their city.

Australia had 22 in all with their prize one being Melbourne that was critcally administered by the Melbourne CS Group. Nithin would have enjoyed this Group. They were Couchsurfers to the core in their selflessness.

I joined CS in 2007 and in that time have been a Regional Ambassador, an Australian Country Ambassador and remain a Travelling Ambassador believing that the original model of CS still remains between all the negativity and change, where good people with good profiles use the virtues of regard and respect to seek cultural exchanges with other like minded souls. This still happens today and I still host and enjoy the richness of that in the same capacity as I first did in 2007.

CS is changing as too the world and values are changing along the way. The CS Wiki community was very strong and around the world they developed some incredible local resources for fellow CSers new to a country, city or Couchsurfing itself... Information of a quality far betyond Lonely Planet or Frommers - thousands and thousands of hours pulled down with just a few weeks notice so most of the information is now lost and unretreivable. To my mind that was senseless and highly disrespectful. It is claimed that the wikis were not being used - that may be so however with the disbandenment of CS Groups and the new style of drop-in Couch requests as described by Nithin and the many respondents to this article the Wikis were basically shelved by the new design and product package that allows for the member indifference displayed with the new generation of CSers - they simply don't know any better nor are they being guided.

There is disappointment in many aspects of the new CS however as an old CSer I will continue to be the best host and guest I can be working within the bounds of respect, regard and consideration. In the end it isn't about the redesign of the webpage or the limitations of an App, it is about communication and I still determine every CS Couch request by the traditional measures of a considered email remain with CS.


PS - i have just looked at how Melbourne CSers are going with their new environment and i am pleased to see that the vibrancy of CS spirit is still there :) It seems that they have adapted well

Posted May 7th, 2013 - 7:24 am by from Budapest, Hungary (Permalink)
:( from the article "More members, less community"

I was an happy Cs Organizer ... but now what is important is only the number of people ...in the new "Cs" is not important if your meeting is a real Cs meeting and is a free event or is commercial event and not Cs at all... a lot of shit events are " Featured Events " the munber only the number is important ... but ... this number will be soon Zero

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Posted May 12th, 2013 - 3:38 pm by from Lahore, Pakistan (Permalink)
This was a well written response by someone that has been doing this a long time. For Nithin, (who one of my friends knows really well through CS) to say this, is an indictment on what has happened to this site since. I agree. I have not been a member as long as many of you, but I was incredibly involved when I was in Seoul. Now, I am disenchanted and annoyed everyTIME I log in. I hate they lay out. This was a very useful and friendly site. Now I feel like I am in some weird puzzle, and I am seeking couch surfers.

It has been a weird transition, and I have read/seen a lot of disappointed (wonderful and amazing) CSers leave. I am slow and like to make up my mind after a period of long contemplation, but I have to agree with them. This new set up is not working.

Posted May 14th, 2013 - 10:58 am by from Guangzhou, China (Permalink)
In 2008 I was thinking to give to myself and people like me a space on the internet to make it easier to get in touch and share some of our time on that shared surface that is the world.

I have been "couch surfing" and "hosting" all my life, no matter what. I will keep doing it, no matter what. And I do it just because I don't "own" anything, thus it is normal to share the space I live in with those I am spending my time.

When I was about to start thinking how to make a website to share this very simple lifestyle, then is when a friend told me about www.couchsurfing.com and it was just natural that CS and its community joined my life.

Couchsurfing as a website is absolutely irrelevant to me. It is free to go if it doesn't fit me. People continue existing and I too. It is nothing more than the toilet paper in a toilet. Nice and soft, rough and coarse, as long as it holds it does the job for me.

Assholes and morons are everywhere as long as you see them as such. I see people and I enjoy with those that enjoy with me, the other I don't mind.

I care the great people here and outside here. And I am thankful to those that saved me from wasting years of hard job to put together a website to meet other great people.

All has to be sustainable or it disappears, even an idyllic website. If someone is thinking to make a new place for people like us then keep sustainability in mind. And if one comes out, then I'd be happy if that also joins my life.

Pietro

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