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NOT to offend anyone! But I have a serious question about Geography in USA
Posted December 7th, 2012 - 2:46 pm from Berlin, Germany
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Posted December 7th, 2012 - 4:59 pm from Camden, United States
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Posted December 7th, 2012 - 8:07 pm by from Stoke-on-Trent, England (Permalink)
They also deleted all the previous town / city groups and all the posts related to them - that's five years worth of useful information gone. Further, many of the city groups (e.g. Dublin) had a huge amount of information on their page - best places to eat, things to do, live music venues, when the weekly / monthly meets were, how the transport systems worked, best priced tickets and special deals. All of it now gone. All the work that ambassadors etc put in to create that information - gone.

I am in a group that is miles from where I actually live - totally pointless for me as any events are too far away for me to attend and any prospective surfers would be too far away to realistically have a chance to surf my couch.

Nevertheless, it does have the headline effect of showing that Dublin has 7,660 available couches. the fact that most are miles away appears to be irrelevant.

Posted December 7th, 2012 - 8:25 pm from Victoria, Canada
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Posted December 7th, 2012 - 9:23 pm from Saint-Brieuc, France
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Posted December 7th, 2012 - 11:56 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted December 8th, 2012 - 11:57 am from Tourlaville, France
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Posted December 8th, 2012 - 1:43 pm from New York, United States
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Posted December 9th, 2012 - 5:51 pm by from Tashkent, Uzbekistan (Permalink)
@DUCATIJIM,
"Why do you try to speak English without an accent? All English people have local accents - as soon as I open my mouth people in this area say - you are not from round here'..
hahaha...
@DutchDelight,
I've visited Amsterdam,moreover I am an alumnae from the 3K Leuven University.Unfortunately, their faculty went dutch and sometimes I even wonder Why are dutch people so forgettable?!
They've received a huge sum of money from the EU for their teaching/training ,but do not preserve good relations,and that happens in our global village
it is well known that Leuven is located in German speaking part, therefore I had to promote my master thesis in both: English and German.
I know that Leuven is located in Belgium,but the mentality here is dutch.
Halima

Posted December 9th, 2012 - 6:04 pm from Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted December 9th, 2012 - 10:09 pm from Stevensville, United States
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Posted December 9th, 2012 - 10:17 pm from Invercargill, New Zealand
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Posted December 10th, 2012 - 8:03 am by from Occidental, United States (Permalink)
Jana, and others, they do teach geography in school, but remembering is like using a muscle, the more you use it the stronger it gets, and if you do not use it, it weakens or is lost. I scanned the comments, so I am not sure if I am replying to the intention of your original post: I tried to teach my children to read maps, they resisted, I persisted, but they have so many other methods of finding their way (computers and I-phones) that they may not remember now. When I was younger, 26 year old, I hitch- hiked across the USA to New York, and then went to Europe and hitched there for a year. I used maps and still retain some memory of where things are. Really traveling and having to know where I was helped me learn. And to comment about accents, I have had trouble understanding some others English due to their regional accent. Also, living in California I learned Spanish, Castilian, but then learned Mexican Spanish from Mexican people I worked with. I tried to speak Spanish clearly, but had English speaking co-workers speak with clients in Spanish that had a terrible "English" accent. Not sure if that makes sense...

Posted December 11th, 2012 - 1:52 pm by from Ciudad de Mendoza, Argentina (Permalink)
My answer is what I think according with my experience:
They only study Geography about their country, because they are not really interested in know about another cultures. I would like to add that they don't know anything about the rest of American continent also!!!

A few month ago, an engineers from California (Silicon Valley) told me if I was born near Rio de Janeiro... (I born in Argentina, ...) What do you think about it?

So?...what a pitty!!
I appologise... of course... if I've offended... It is no my intention, of course
USA is a beautiful country
Best regards

Posted December 11th, 2012 - 7:37 pm from Camden, United States
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Posted December 12th, 2012 - 4:17 pm from Camden, United States
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Posted December 13th, 2012 - 9:44 pm from Camden, United States
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Posted December 14th, 2012 - 9:34 am from Saint-Brieuc, France
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Posted December 15th, 2012 - 9:19 pm from Camden, United States
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Posted December 17th, 2012 - 11:22 pm from Ottawa, Canada
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Posted December 18th, 2012 - 12:19 am by from Daylesford, Australia (Permalink)
et cum spiritu tui, georgie-pie
there is a spell check you could use, you know...doesn't take long and is soooo useful for the maturer brain. :>)
effecticely is a very cute new creation, though.

re geography:
my kids had a large map of the world and another one of our own continent on the wall in their rooms. helped with looking up all the far-away places they read about, in their books.
grandson maxli got a lovely globe, for his 5th birthday, from grandma. and big picture book with children's' stories from around the world.
easy peasy. children have such natural curiosity. all they need is food for thoughts...

:>) roo

Posted December 18th, 2012 - 12:57 am from Camden, United States
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Posted December 18th, 2012 - 1:04 am from Camden, United States
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Posted December 18th, 2012 - 2:08 am from Portland, United States
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Posted December 18th, 2012 - 3:32 am by from Morgan Hill, United States (Permalink)
There are beach-balls available, shaped & decorated like a globe. They are fun for even smaller kids to play with, and they get them familiar with the placement of countries/continents in a non-rigid, non-scholastic environment.

Posted December 18th, 2012 - 2:54 pm by from Jerusalem, Israel (Permalink)
I remember from childhood all of the vast selection of products for geography education from Rand McN ally, many specially marketed to schools..
among these were several kinds of globes..and studentd were all taught about various kinds of geography...political, physical, economic, and natural....

I attended several kinds of schools, including Catholic and public...I recall the pull down charft type maps, on rollers, mounted on the wall...they were usually a set, one of U.S., one North America, one Mexico and Central America, one South America, and so on..Africa, Asia, Europe, etc...

I remember how old these were, and how ragged and well worn...with fading colors....but how enjoyed....

I would think they have improved their products even more...

and as I mentioned in my earlier message, National Geogr
aphic has been in the classroom---world wide---for many decades, constantly re-inventing and improving their products..
in addition, they have various graded reading publications, and many corresspondence programs..so they begin with pre-school and very early grades, working all the way up to high school...

Posted December 18th, 2012 - 8:39 am by from Ciudad de Mendoza, Argentina (Permalink)
I've just given my opinion, ... I think it allows for more, not a subject important enough to generate the string of comments that was generated.
YES!! I enjoyed a lot visiting NYC.
But, ... not rule not to do other statements about the lack of knowledge of geography in USA and ignorance of other cultures and social and political situations of the rest of the planet.
Ah, ... by the way, I'm not Brazilian ... I suppose your statement is a joke. By the way... Brazil is a beautiful country you must know, I recommend it.
I do not understand the word "aquainted", can you give me a synonym?
Finally, my country is a melting pot of races and religions, such as USA, and that's why our school teaches us to know and understand all cultures, so we all feel and are equal, because we share
I'm leaving to another better discussion now
Best regards for all, enjoy!!
!!! I apologise because of my bad English, I'm trying to improve it!!!

Posted December 18th, 2012 - 6:37 pm from Ottawa, Canada
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Posted December 18th, 2012 - 7:47 pm from Camden, United States
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Posted December 17th, 2012 - 7:40 am by from Jerusalem, Israel (Permalink)
It is possible that in some schools, things aren't up to par..and also, not every child really applies himself to his studies...

but Geography is a subject adequately covered in U.S. schools...
first of course, students need to learn American Geographjy, which is in itself a challenge..but at least children learn about the physical aspects of Geography..and map reading..learning about rivers, valleys, mountain ranges, forests plains etc...

then they are exposed to the world Geography...
classrooms usually have large display maps...and current events are also covered...

I recall that our maps were all "pull down" devices...mounted omn the wall...in ventian blind like carrier mechanisms, so the teacher would pull down the desired map for a given subject...

The National Geographic Society has been working in their area for decades...constantly experimenting with and developing new ideas for teaching Geography, and they offer schools many inexpensive and innovative materials for use in classrooms..
this activity starts in very early primary grades...and students can "grow and mature" through the National Geographic system of learning..
the Society also encourages correspondence experiences with children from other countries...and there are even possible visiting programs in high school..

another area for Geography education is "People to People"...an exchange study program for high school students... although actually, they have some programs for primary schools as well..not trravel, but education...
this was started by President Eisenhower....
actually, in fourth grade I was a participant in a program to
build a float for a major parade in our city....the float carried a large number of early grade schoolers, all dressed in native costumes of various coiuntries..and of course, we had to study about each of our counttries...I was "Albania"
and I had to wear a fez...and a skirt like garment, similar to what they wear in Greece...
of course, at that time..Albania was an East Bloc country...so this just shows you how broad this program was....

in addition to Geography as such, I can recall that we also learned folksongs of many countries...in our music classes....this include "Sakura, Sakura, from Japan, African songs, Irish, German and French and Spanish...etc etc...

I still remember those songs...this being back in 5th grade...etc..
I think there was a sincere effort in these programs to not only provide info about the Geography..but also tolerance and understanding that there are many countries, with many cultures, around the world..and all people face the same daily tasks, experiences and challenges...

of course, we also had "My Weekly Reader"..a simple weekly newspaper, which also carried stories about Geography and foreign lands...

in Jewish schools..students aree also highly exposed to Geography, and are taught about the Jewish experience around the world..learning about various populatioin centers around the world...where there is na Jewish presence...

I would expect that this is the case with other "parochial" schools...particularly Catholic, etc...especially since they may wish to expand interest of young children in the global activity of the various orders offering education, health services, and social services...and to encourage a desire later in life to explore those avenues of Catholic activity...

Posted December 17th, 2012 - 8:14 am by from Brookfield, United States (Permalink)
I am an American and I can tell you with great confidence that there is no logical answer for this phenomenon. It baffles and amazes me as well. I have known many Americans, including people with advanced university degrees, who have NO geographical orientation in the world whatsoever. Not only do they not know the difference between Central America and South America, they do not know the difference between Africa and Asia. There is something about the American experience that insulates people from the rest of the world. I don't know what it is.

Posted December 17th, 2012 - 12:06 pm from Saint-Brieuc, France
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Posted December 18th, 2012 - 8:22 am by from Brookfield, United States (Permalink)
Could it be the negation of their roots?

That is certainly a part of it. People come to the United States from all over the world, and within a generation or two have forgotten everything about the country they came from (unless they return to visit periodically), and have also picked up the prejudices and cheerful ignorance of the rest of the world which is the standard operating procedure of American popular culture. Several people have pointed out that you learn what you need to learn, and you remember what you use. In America, you do not need to learn geography and you will not use it on a regular basis, so only people who find it particularly fascinating will take it up.
I had a shower curtain in the bathroom which was a map of the world. I always looked at it when I was in the bathroom. My children never did. It wasn't until they started traveling the world on their own that they learned any geography.

Posted December 18th, 2012 - 8:39 am by from Occidental, United States (Permalink)
My ex-wife and I moved out to a small town after our children were born, and they went to a small school where I assisted in their classrooms on my day off on Friday, There was a concrete amphitheater for a play yard, with a map of the world painted on it... the teacher would sit in the higher seats and send the children on trips to different locations in the world, calling out cities and the children would run there: Rome, New York, Johannesburg, Perth, Rio De Janiero, Peking, Moscow... the children ran from continent to continent... later, after my daughter (now 24) had been to China and Spain and Delhi did she really get the concept...

Posted March 21st, 2013 - 1:44 pm by from Merida, Mexico (Permalink)
Hi Jana,

this is a good question and worthy of an answer. I am an American who attended private schools my entire life. The education one gets in a private school is a far superior one than what might be received in a public school.

In a cultural sense, Americans are told from birth that we are the best, the this, the that. When we watch the news, if it is NOT a Public Broadcast News, the odds are there will be no news that includes anything about the rest of the world. That is referred to a international news and is separated from regular/local news. This is unfortunate, but I think, it is part of the plan to keep Americans in the dark. Stupid people are much easier to control.

When I go to Canada or to other countries and have the chance to watch TV, I see the local news but mostly I see WORLD news.This is Not so in America. We are told about continents in school but not about specific countries or cities. This is part of the truth and may give you an understanding about why we can't locate our own noses despite them being on our face.

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Posted March 28th, 2013 - 3:56 pm by from Merida, Mexico (Permalink)
Pancreas? This is where a dictionary comes into play.