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Wanting to connect with Expats
Posted January 15th, 2013 - 10:53 pm by from Sylva, United States (Permalink)
Is there such a group on CS? My travel is exploratory to leaving the US in the next year. Thanks.

Posted January 15th, 2013 - 11:01 pm from Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted January 15th, 2013 - 11:10 pm by from Sylva, United States (Permalink)
Yeah, checked them out already, not exactly what I'm looking for. I should have been more exacting. Like the 50+ group, seeking folks who have moved recently from Europe and US or Canada and can speak a bit about why they moved where they are/pros and cons/costs, etc. Busiest expat group is in Istanbul--nice city but not where I want to land permanently. Maybe there is another way to connect with the folks I need.....?

Posted January 16th, 2013 - 8:37 am from Colon, Costa Rica
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Posted January 20th, 2013 - 11:40 pm by from London, England (Permalink)
I'm an expat American living in London for 26 years. Came here originally for (now ex) husband's job. message me individually if you want to know more or ask questions. One thing - I did not specifically seek out the expat community - most of my friends over the years are English. A few are Israeli and a few other American expats - but that is really in recent years through Israeli folk dancing.
Always something to do in London. Eileen

Posted January 21st, 2013 - 3:32 pm by from Sylva, United States (Permalink)
Thanks Eileen, I will get in touch. I haven't been to London in decades except to change planes. As a person without much of a retirement package, London isn't on my list of places to live. But to visit,of course!

The US is becoming more and more chaotic and difficult to navigate especially on a modest income. When I'm traveling on a modest amount it feels actually freeing. Settled down here, the day to day absolute weirdness of our politics and feeling the stranglehold of the Federal Reserve on our money and corporations on our health and well-being, I can understand how frustration drives many to do what they do. I would rather see a bit more of the world, volunteer or helpx.net from time to time, get to know my "neighbors" and learn from them how we might end this madness of violence, and fear. I'm also a writer so in traveling I find the time to write as the pen and paper are my constant traveling companion, my ever-present conversation. Takes a bit more effort here between a job, a house to keep, a garden that I love tending but requires time and various other activities. Having heard from so many about their experiences has been so enlightening and that was my reason for throwing out the question.

Will let you know if I'm coming through! Thanks for the offer......

Posted January 22nd, 2013 - 10:59 am from Charlotte, United States
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Posted January 23rd, 2013 - 2:45 am by from Sylva, United States (Permalink)
Oh that would be so lovely! I'm driving to DC this Friday to be with a friend who had a stroke in October I go up about 1x/month. Otherwise this would be the place I'd head to for the Full Moon....keep me posted about other ideas or we can just meet up sometime. Many blessings, Yvonne

Posted January 16th, 2013 - 6:12 pm by from Venice, Italy (Permalink)
May be I am a little out of topic, but what is the difference between "expats" and "emigrants" ? Is an expat an emigrant?
Is an emigrant an expat?
"Emigrant" seems more connected with lack of opportunities and poverty in own country
"Expat" seems to me more connected with opportunities of life and work abroad, but still ok with own country.
Am I wrong? Surely I am, I haven't much experience in that.
In Italy, the word "espatriato" is a synonimus of "emigrato" but it is much more connected with political reasons of emigration.
Thank you for everyone who can clarify this difference.

Daniela

Posted January 16th, 2013 - 11:23 pm from Sydney, Australia
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Posted January 16th, 2013 - 11:26 pm from Sydney, Australia
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Posted January 16th, 2013 - 11:48 pm by from Colon, Costa Rica (Permalink)
An expatriate is any person living outside his/her country of origin. An emigrant is a person who has left his/her country of origin to settle permanently in another.

So all emigrants are expatriates, but not all expatriates are emigrants. I tend to associate emigration with change of citizenship, but that's not necessarily so. We're "Permanent Residents Without Conditions" in Costa Rica, but have kept our US citizenship despite living in CR for 43 years and having no plans to reestablish residency in the US. But one never knows, and we keep the option.

Sharon

Posted January 16th, 2013 - 11:42 pm by from Sylva, United States (Permalink)
Thanks for all the tidbits of information; Costa Rica is high on my list and I have no problem CSing on a boat--moored or moving. I really don't know anything about dual citizenship altho I should look into the possibility based on my Italian grandparents. What a great way to meet my CS neighbors--invite them in by throwing out a post. Gracias.

Posted January 17th, 2013 - 9:10 am by from Venice, Italy (Permalink)
There is a concrete possibility to be able for you to take also the Italian citizenship, but you must verify if your grandparents didn't formally give away the Italian citizenship. You must also verify this about your parent, son or daughter of your grandparents.
There are many other rules about that , for example the one regarding the automatic loss of citizenship according to the rules about the rights of citizenship of your country (ius solis, ius sanguinis etc)
Of course, the matter is quite complicated, because there are lots of aspects to be considered.

Daniela

Posted January 17th, 2013 - 9:25 am by from Venice, Italy (Permalink)
I think this is the best site to check for Italian citizenship:


http://italiancitizenship.freeforums.org/qualifications-for-italian-dual-citizenship-through-ancestry-t74.html

Posted January 17th, 2013 - 11:49 pm by from London, England (Permalink)
Yvonne - I am sitting in a bar at the Toronto airport while I wait for my flight to take me to London for at least two years.

As expats go - my metamorphosis should be relatively easy as I am a dual UK and Canadian citizen. But I have just spent the past three days trying to transfer money out of the country. After three days of wrangling, I have a very large draft from HSBC to be deposited into my UK HSBC account. They are going to hold money from their own branch for 6 weeks. This is Kafkaesque.

If only my bank had facilitated my transfer as expeditiously as they had the money laundering Russian mafia ( google their 1.9 billion dollar fine). What a nightmare.

Posted January 18th, 2013 - 3:48 am from Sydney, Australia
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Posted January 18th, 2013 - 4:30 am by from Daylesford, Australia (Permalink)
nah, david, no butterflies with uncle kafka.
poor gregor samsma, in that book, transmuted into a 'ungeheures ungeziefer' frightful pest would be my translation

as a fellow linguist, you would notice the twin prefixes of 'un', a perfect alliteration, by a master of scare techniques. sounds fearful, as well, try to say it:
(oun-ge-hoy-res oun-ge-zee-fer) shudder. :>)

won't fit our lovely katie, i think

45 deg up there, in sydders?
keep cool

roo

Posted January 18th, 2013 - 3:48 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted January 19th, 2013 - 1:15 am from Alicante, Spain
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Posted January 16th, 2013 - 11:55 pm by from Daylesford, Australia (Permalink)
latin:
ex = out of or previous
patria = homeland

ergo: one who resides outside her homeland

and yes, clever david:

from your point of view, i would be an immigrant
from my german friends' view, an emigrant

as for myself, i get homesick for germany when i am here
i get homesick for australia when i am there
but, mostly, i'd rather be here.

:>)

Posted January 17th, 2013 - 12:48 am by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
I feel the same way about Whidbey Island and Reykjavik.

Fortunately, it's a single non-stop flight between the two.

That's by design.

Cherie

Posted January 16th, 2013 - 8:52 am from Marsalforn, Malta
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Posted January 16th, 2013 - 1:03 pm from Alicante, Spain
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Posted January 16th, 2013 - 3:18 pm from Marsalforn, Malta
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Posted January 18th, 2013 - 10:03 am from Tulle, France
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Posted January 21st, 2013 - 11:17 am by from Brussels, Belgium (Permalink)
Some countries do not allow dual citizenship. I would have taken American citizenship, if I could have kept my German passport. Would have been nice to have a choice of where to live and work without going through too much bureaucracy.

Re expat groups, there is a number of them in Brussels, my home base (People to People International or PTPI, American Club or ACB, BISC=Brussels International Sailing Club and other interest groups like Viewfinders, Cercle Polyglotte, etc.) Spending five months in Lazio (Italy), there is one in Rome I know of(Expats living in Rome). They meet every Tuesday evening.

For people interested in languages, there are many polyglot clubs or cafés in different countries. I recommend this website: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=104128805710472783806.0004791d86129beef854e.



Posted January 21st, 2013 - 12:15 pm from Charlotte, United States
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Posted January 21st, 2013 - 3:21 pm by from Sylva, United States (Permalink)
Thank you for this link. I joined up--hey, we're practically neighbors anyway. I listed myself in the Charlotte group. Great information.....hope to meet up with you soon.