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Tragically Sad: NYC Woman Tourist Killed in Turkey
Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 9:42 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
http://news.yahoo.com/report-missing-nyc-woman-found-dead-turkey-182309377.html

What can we do? I think it's best to not travel alone, despite all of the encouragement to do so.

This world isn't safe for us women.

Cherie

Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 9:50 pm from Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 10:50 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
That's the whole point.

No where is safe for us.

Cherie

Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 10:58 pm from Victoria, Canada
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Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:15 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
I hope so.

Still, a mother of 2 in her 30's: this isn't some carefree hussy flaunting her boobies.

WHY would anyone kill her????

Cherie

Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:02 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:03 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:26 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
I think it's sad that anything she did brought on her murder, as you said:

"But there are many questions about her situation.
She rented a room at one of the worst districts of the city. Very cheap room. And a "dark" district with "dark" people.

On the other hand, she spent a lot of money - in cash.

She had an interesting travel itineary, came to Istanbul, went to Netherlands, and came back to Istanbul from Germany (a period of 4-5 days I think)."

Dilek,

WHY do you think anything she did was "wrong"????

You say, "Dark districts with dark people..spent a lot of money--in cash"...should we now accept ANY place not safe for women?????????

I don't think ANY of the "questionable" behavior you describe is "wrong".

I hear your words and realize you are subject to sexual discrimination, and now you think it was HER that beckoned what happened to her.

Dilek, there are those of us who think men and women are equal.

And NO woman deserves to be murdered, regardless of what she does, where she goes, what she wears, or how she behaves.

Cherie



Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:35 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:41 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:50 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
You said it.

You live in an environment of spies and terrorists.

I'm so sorry.

Cherie

Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:48 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
She's a photographer.

Why do you suspect of anything else?

Cherie

Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 12:04 am from Bad Fallingbostel, Germany
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 12:13 am by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
Good point.

We're all at risk.

Cherie

Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 1:37 am from Sydney, Australia
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Posted February 2nd, 2013 - 11:58 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
Not to brag, but when traveling, I can easily drop 12,000 USD: watch me in April in Paris! LOL

I think our parameters are different., Dilek...

Honestly, that's not a lot of money...

Cherie

Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 1:27 am from Seattle, United States
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 1:36 am by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
Marilyn,

You ask:

"$12,000 US is a lot of money to me! How could you spend that much in a week?"

I haven't traveled in over 4 years.

How much have you spent traveling the last 4 years?
Did you go to India? Buenos Ares?

Cherie

Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 3:15 am from Walla Walla, United States
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 6:05 am by from New York, United States (Permalink)
Thanks David for putting 'danger' in perspective. What are we afraid of? I don't think of the world as a dangerous place. Things happen. That is not going to keep me from travelling or being afraid. What happened to 'the world is smaller than you think?' Fear and worrying is so not worth it.
I thought Cherie's $12,000 was a typo. That is a lot of money! Even if you went on a wild and crazy Paris shopping spree who would want to carry any extra purchases around with you? Travelling light is the key to success.
Judy

Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 7:29 pm from Seattle, United States
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 7:59 am from Bad Fallingbostel, Germany
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 8:44 am from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 9:22 am from Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 10:05 am from London, England
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 7:43 pm by from Los Angeles, United States (Permalink)
No, it is not standard for the FBI to get involved in a missing American abroad. You can barely get the State department to acknowledge that an American is missing as they may say 'Anyone can go missing if they desire, it isn't against the law to go missing'.

Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 8:45 pm from Ottawa, Canada
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Posted February 3rd, 2013 - 11:56 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
George

As long as she's size 18 I'll be happy to share.

Cherie

Posted February 4th, 2013 - 7:47 am from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 4th, 2013 - 11:18 am by from Detroit, United States (Permalink)
Hey Gang,

Yeah, it's been a while since you've heard from me.

So sorry to hear about the traveler ... I haven't read the article, I've just read this thread ... and I don't think I want to either .. as I'm traveling alone as well and as usual.

I just spent 3 months in Ethiopia 'alone' and I'm now in Uganda, soon to be headed to South Africa then Ghana and home from there.

By the way, there is a CS event in SA that I will be attending ... they will be hiking and then a big meal ... the host has 45 beds available for any traveling guest. With that said ... I will be arriving early for a couch ... I noticed not much (or no) activity on his profile, however he seems like a honest fellow. I'll try to point you to the CS activity in my following contact ...

Feed back is requested.

Assata

Posted February 4th, 2013 - 12:00 pm by from Detroit, United States (Permalink)
Ok Gang,

I just had the time to really sit back and review his profile and his website.

I'm not advertising here for him. However it appears CS has opened up to quite a few 'backpacking' businesses ...

The event if you are headed to SA: Hiking, Braai and Sleepover on 23 Feb 2013
Farm 147 Hennopsriver on the R511 Tom's Backpackers Get directions

As a lone traveler and Ambassador in CS I'm aware of checking referrals, look for profile activity and and participation ... so you can say I'm just looking for input from some old friends in the 50+ group.

Assata



Posted February 4th, 2013 - 6:18 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 4th, 2013 - 6:48 pm from Walla Walla, United States
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Posted February 5th, 2013 - 2:16 am by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
I think they think she was stabbed.

Cherie

Posted February 5th, 2013 - 8:50 am from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 5th, 2013 - 8:55 am from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 5th, 2013 - 3:16 pm by from Langley, United States (Permalink)
Well, Dilek, all I can say is apparently we get our news from different sources:

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/ci_22506382/missing-u-s-woman-found-stabbed-death-turkey

Cherie

Posted February 5th, 2013 - 4:00 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 5th, 2013 - 6:49 pm from Camden, United States
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Posted February 6th, 2013 - 11:21 am from Alicante, Spain
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Posted February 6th, 2013 - 12:53 pm from Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted February 7th, 2013 - 6:27 am from Istanbul, Turkey
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