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natural washing agent: chestnuts
Posted October 16th, 2012 - 7:00 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)

I just read about an alternative and natural washing agent. I knew indian "soap nuts" as a natural wasching agent but I also knew about the problems about it. That means a very long route of transport and because of this 'boom' in the western countries the increasing of the local prices for it because of the higher request.

Well and I read that the chestnuts which lie around all over Vienna right now (pretty autumn) contain saponines (Saponine) which can be used for clothes wasching! I find that exciting! :-) So far I always bought washing liquid from the Bio market but still more natural is better in any case!

Who would like to go for a walk for example at Augarten as there are many chestnuttrees and collect some nuts (like many children,they know what's good!) and try making wasching agent out of it?

here is the article I have read (but it's in German,you can though see pictures): http://experimentselbstversorgung.net/auf-zum-waschmittel-sammeln/

Posted October 21st, 2012 - 7:02 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
thank you so much for the information. I will deffinitely look in substituting or at least mixing with the washing powder I buy at BioMaran :) wohooo

looking fwd to a workshop too if it happens :D

hugs, christine

Posted October 22nd, 2012 - 7:44 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
Ta ta taaa! I made a doodle for the 'workshop'. If you are interested please fill it in until thursday, 25.10.,that we can decide a date soon.


We also need a volunteer to host this event. For storaging the liquids I thought we could collect and use old washing liquid bottles or glass jars (from marmelade,olives,...). Any other suggestions or ideas on that? Maybe a bucket would be practical to let it soak in (but everybody has a bucket at home,right?)

At Augarten,in the 2nd district are manymany chestnuttrees but I think Giulia said in Schönbrunn too. Well,both parks are nice to go for a walk indeed.
Shall we vote? ;-)

Posted October 23rd, 2012 - 3:26 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
NICE! I am very much looking forward to this experiment :D

Posted October 25th, 2012 - 6:33 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
ok, the majority voted for Saturday,27.10. from 15,00.

We still need a place where we can make the washing agent after collecting the chestnuts. If there are no other volunteers for hosting we could also go to my place I don't live far from Augarten and I live close to Prater.

Any preferences where to go for a walk for collecting the chestnuts?

Posted October 26th, 2012 - 12:18 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
Ok let's meet tomorrow,Saturday, at 15:00 at the mainentrance at Augarten. We could bake some cookies, watch a documentary or just drink a lot of tea while the washing agent has to soak in. ;-) Fell free to bring some ideas,motivation and ingredients.

Please bring some bottles or glasses to transport the washing liquid home.

Looking forward very much! See you tomorrow! :-)

Posted October 26th, 2012 - 12:31 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
Great i´ll do so. Wo ist denn der Haupteingang? nur zur Sicherheit. Nicht dass ich dann am falschen Eingang rumstehe...Hab übrigens festgestellt dass ich gerade bei deiner Schwester zur Untermiete wohne, Veronika :)So klein ist die Welt!

bis morgen juhu

Posted October 27th, 2012 - 10:58 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
:-) Hej Eva that's great,the world is small indeed.

The mainentrance is where the Augarten Porzellan Manufaktur is. You can fill this in google maps and it will show you where it is (like a 'Schatzkarte') ;-) : 48.222413,16.376723

I am looking forward very much too, bring your umbrellas and if you want also some essential oils or lavender,... then we can put some smell into the liquid. :-)

Josef volunteered to host us,jippie! He lives very close to Augarten.

See you later!

Posted October 29th, 2012 - 8:28 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
Well,we had a nice and very productive afternoon indeed! :-) Thanks to everybody who was part of it,I really enjoyed it!

I uploaded the pictures we made to our group photo album.

A short resume for the others who could not come: ;-)

Mark,Eva,Josef and Veronika took a walk at Augarten to collect some chestnuts (well "some",in the end it was 9,5 kg!), then we mashed some of the chestnuts and boiled it with water. In the meantime we made delicious cookies (Eva and Josef are cookies experts now) and then we were watching a documentary while the chestnuts were soaking in. We were watching a docu from arte: "Strom aus der Wüste". If you are interested you can watch it on arte's website,here is the link: http://videos.arte.tv/de/videos/strom-aus-der-wueste--7002082.html

Mark and Veronika also used the time for sorting out the Free Box from "ancient" objects (objects which we estimated that were part of the Free Box for a very long time. We can bring it to Kostnix Laden or Schenke,maybe they will find a new home there).
Speaking of it: The Free Box will be happy to find a new host who will take it home after the next Stammtisch of the CS Vienna Group on the 12th of Nov.(don't worry,it is a very decent guest)

We even did a test washing with the selfmade detergent and it worked well. The clothes were clean and it did not smell bad (it did not smell at all actually). The liquid can also be used as soap as the saponines which chestnuts contain are fat-dissolving.

Dear kids and adults: please try this at home! ;-)

Posted October 29th, 2012 - 8:54 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
oh, I forgot to mention in the protocol that we also ate the delicious Kaiserschmarren Josef cooked (with a sauce of pears and apples from the Biokistl). Yummy! ;-)

Posted October 29th, 2012 - 9:08 pm by from Hastings, England (Permalink)
Hallo! That is a really interesting topic and I will try and have a go at some point soon. I have Waschnüsse at the moment.

I was just wondering, what is the Free Box? It sounds like something I could find space for in my house :) I will be at the meeting on the 12th November!

Love Sarah

Posted October 30th, 2012 - 8:28 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
Am very sorry to have missed this event... but of course I will try anyway :)
I will try to log in more often in future so as to keep up to date about things taking place.
Thank you for the advice and links!
Hugs, CHristine

Posted November 14th, 2012 - 5:44 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
These are very nice pictures! :)

I am now using the chestnut-liquid as a dishwashing detergent because i made a lot and i am not shure how long you can store it for. It works well.
Does anybody know a way to preserve the liquid? I know it is probably best to just put some chestnuts in water the day before washing clothes and use the fresh liquid. I just realized that i would probably forget to do it quite often..