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Implementing Positive Change for a Better CS
Posted July 14th, 2007 - 2:32 am from Chico, United States
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Posted July 14th, 2007 - 4:30 am by from London, England (Permalink)
Dear Donna,

This is indeed very helpful. Following a structured approach and being able to actually implement a change is what most people want.

Valeri/ Monolita/ others - all of us who have been active in discussing issues and recommending things, why dont we summarise the key issue and write a proposal like Donna has recommended. And hopefully the leadership team will be able to take the case on board.

Any other POV?

Cheers
Aparna

Posted July 14th, 2007 - 8:00 am from Albuquerque, United States
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Posted July 14th, 2007 - 8:43 am from Chico, United States
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Posted July 14th, 2007 - 9:15 pm by from Helsinki, Finland (Permalink)
Hiya,

well, the page is for ambassadors *for now* for feedback and such. But probably not forever (should we push a bit it to be published, you think?)

So I wouldn't limit the participation for ambassadors only - anyone able gather troops and write proposal can very well do so as long as the feedback and suggestions made are constructive and gather enough support from the community.

I'm not sure if the policy FAQ is the best place for thumbs up / down evaluation (simply because it's one-way communication and doesn't allow for discussion), but in a lack of a better venue, better than nothing.

Also, the tech team is reading here so interaction with us is possible. Although some members of the team are not fully appreciative of all non-tech-related conversation in this group and are not totally convinced user input is even necessary - which to me is a major disappointment, I simply can't believe this attitude is taken as granted, and is even desired trait within the LT. I'm in the tech team thinking this is not the way to go but can only do as much, if the people "above" me think differently.

I really wish leadership team to participate into this discussion here as well, as I suspect this (along with many other issues) is discussed internally rather than discussing even with those of us participating into most of the work done since last summer.

Anu

Posted July 15th, 2007 - 3:40 am by from Paia, United States (Permalink)
Hello Everyone,
I highly endorse this methodology that Donna is suggesting here. We use this within LT working groups. It is helpful because it allows the group to come up with some concrete ideas and then finally a proposal which is digestible. It is helpful to me personally because I don't have to go read hundreds of groups trying to piece together what people's needs really are.

I will try to drop by any groups you create and chime in when appropriate but with all of the programming tasks I have on my plate right now, it will be somewhat difficult. The LT will have to rely on the larger group to present proposals and get feedback mid-way through the proposal creation process (if necessary). We are here and listening and can do an even better job of listening if thoughts are collected and structured.

I am excited to see what you come up with!

Cheers,
--Casey

PS: The Policy FAQ page is now available to all. I don't know why it wasn't before. Yet another bug.
http://www.couchsurfing.com/policy_faq.html

Posted July 15th, 2007 - 5:05 am by from London, England (Permalink)
Hi Valeri, Kalliope,

Lets look at putting our thoughts together on this proposal.

Can we first segregate the key issues that we have been talking about and then create sub groups to generate ideas. Like the group on couchsearch modification was created as 'a micro group' to discuss 'a specific issue', we need to have specific groups. Some of the issues that come to my mind straight away from our discussions are

1. Safety / Security - Soft guidelines; If issues crop up, how are they to be handled - Issue handling system is not completely in place.

2. Ambassador Selection - Reviewing criteria, exceptions, addressing issues with ambassadors if any - how will they be tackled, selection team representation.

I have just written whats top of mind. Will be great if we can look at creating specific sub groups. That will make sure our recommendation is crisp.

Aparna


Posted July 14th, 2007 - 8:08 am from Manchester, England
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Posted July 14th, 2007 - 5:56 pm from Athens, Greece
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Posted July 14th, 2007 - 8:44 pm by from Los Angeles, United States (Permalink)
Why does one have to be an ambassador in order to write a suggestion to the management group?

Isn't that like requiring a person to petition the police chief for permission to report a crime to the local police department?

I really don't understnad why the reporting and communication structers are so limiting here.

Sincerely,

David Lee Frater

Posted July 15th, 2007 - 3:58 am from Athens, Greece
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Posted July 16th, 2007 - 9:53 am from Utrecht, Netherlands
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Posted July 16th, 2007 - 10:00 am from Chico, United States
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Posted July 16th, 2007 - 10:02 am from Utrecht, Netherlands
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Posted July 18th, 2007 - 6:07 am by from San Francisco, United States (Permalink)
THANK YOU DONNA!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 15th, 2007 - 6:58 am by from San Francisco, United States (Permalink)
Yes! Thank you, Donna!

And everyone else - I'm really glad to see such positive support for this kind of thing. As a LT monkey I feel incredibly overwhelmed. There are hundreds of group posts that demand attention and it's hard to get a grasp on their importance while still trying to maintain the dozen or so other systems and channels I've taken responsibility for. More focused efforts will greatly help that.

Also, we have many organization working groups like the ones talked about in this thread already. Please check out our org structure before creating a new group: http://www.couchsurfing.com/groups.html?group_category=200

Thanks so much for the positive direction!

Jim

Posted July 15th, 2007 - 9:10 am by from Gothenburg, Sweden (Permalink)
Donna,
thank you very much for this!

Aparna, Valerie etc.
This is great,
I think the two topics brought up by Aparna are a great start.

How do we go about to write this proposal? Shall we start with a point list?

About the safety/security issue, it touches a bit the issues regarding references and backlash when leaving a negative reference, people drawing themselves from leaving negative refs because of this etc. Maybe some kind of guidance of where to turn for advice, how to handle backlash etc.

For the amb issue also add the process of reevaluation of ambs and how this is handled/applied.

Well that is what I've thought of so far...
lets do this :)

cheers

Posted July 15th, 2007 - 8:11 pm by from Los Angeles, United States (Permalink)
Well, I can see we have alot of positive feedback on this one !!! Good Job Donna !!! Ten Brownie Points on this one !!!

Okay, we all like the idea.... Now what do we do?

What are we going to call this design/proposal group?

How do we get the group created?

Who is going to moderate the group?

Who is going to do all the grunt work of reading through all the proposed ideas, and work with them to develope thier idea into a formal proposal?

I know I am being pesky, but, I would like to see this thing FLY !!! Like an EAGLE !!!

Luv N Hugs

David Lee Frater

Posted July 15th, 2007 - 9:33 pm from Chico, United States
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Posted July 16th, 2007 - 12:46 am by from Los Angeles, United States (Permalink)
Dear Donna,

Great, okay, now lets start that process!!!

Who here wants to co-ordinate the efforts of writing the proposal of the formation of this group?

Sincerely,

David Lee Frater

Posted July 16th, 2007 - 9:40 am from Utrecht, Netherlands
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