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Posted October 7th, 2012 - 10:30 am by from Paris, France (Permalink)
From http://www.couchsurfing.org/group_read.html?gid=2125&post=13388807#post13388844


PRIVACY NOTIFICATION and Terms of Use for this profile, Sept 2012



Dear visitor,

By viewing, reading or using this profile you agree that any and all
information collected at this profile page will be kept strictly
confidential and will not be sold, reused, rented, loaned, or otherwise
disclosed. You may only use the information you need for private
purposes.


The template of this page is owned by Couchsurfing.org. All personal
content included on this page and the associated photo pages, such as
text, graphics, personal pictures, is the sole property of the owner of
this profile and protected by United States and international copyright
laws.


License and Access


The creator/owner of this profile (presented by real name or nickname)
grants you a limited license to access and make personal use of this
profile and not to download (other than page caching) or modify it, or
any portion of it, except with express written consent of the owner.
This license does not include any resale or commercial use of this page
or its contents; any collection and use of any listings, descriptions,
or pictures; any derivative use of this page or its contents; any
downloading or copying of account information for the benefit of
merchants; or any use of data mining, robots, or similar data gathering
and extraction tools. This page or any portion of this page (including
the associated photo pages) may not be reproduced, duplicated, copied,
sold, resold, visited, or otherwise exploited for any commercial purpose
without express written consent of the creator/owner. You may not frame
or utilize framing techniques to enclose any proprietary information
(including images, text, or page layout) of the creator/profile owner
without express written consent. You may not use any meta tags or any
other "hidden text" utilizing the profile owner's name or quotes without
the express written consent of the creator/owner of this profile. Any
unauthorized use terminates the permission or license granted by the
creator/owner. You are granted a limited, revocable, and nonexclusive
right to create a hyperlink to this page (for the purpose of creating a
friendship or written reference) from your profile so long as the link
does not portray the creator/owner or its couchsurf experiences in a
false, misleading, derogatory, or otherwise offensive matter. You may
not use any personal, private information or other proprietary graphic
without express written permission.


CS members are granted permission to copy and paste these personal terms of Use into their own CS profile.

Posted October 7th, 2012 - 1:13 pm from Rockchapel, Ireland (Republic of)
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Posted October 7th, 2012 - 5:28 pm by from Florence, Italy (Permalink)
It is a bit too much strict, maybe as bad as the one of C$:

The creator/owner of this profile (presented by real name or nickname) grants you a limited license to access and make personal use of this profile and not to download (other than page caching) or modify it, or
any portion of it, except with express written consent of the owner.

This should be add "or for personal use". Otherwise would not even allow to make a printout to be taken when vising the person.

This license does not include any resale or commercial use of this page or its contents; any collection and use of any listings, descriptions, or pictures; any derivative use of this page or its contents; any downloading or copying of account information for the benefit of
merchants; or any use of data mining, robots, or similar data gathering and extraction tools. This page or any portion of this page (including the associated photo pages) may not be reproduced, duplicated, copied,
sold, resold, visited, or otherwise exploited for any commercial purpose without express written consent of the creator/owner. You may not frame
or utilize framing techniques to enclose any proprietary information (including images, text, or page layout) of the creator/profile owner without express written consent.

This one would be implicit given the previuous paragraph.

You may not use any meta tags or any
other "hidden text" utilizing the profile owner's name or quotes without the express written consent of the creator/owner of this profile. Any
unauthorized use terminates the permission or license granted by the creator/owner.

Who is the people that wrote this ... a lawyer of a patent troll company?
why could not use as a meta tag in a page someone owner name (think about someone that as a common word as name ...)

You are granted a limited, revocable, and nonexclusive right to create a hyperlink to this page (for the purpose of creating a friendship or written reference) from your profile so long as the link does not portray the creator/owner or its couchsurf experiences in a
false, misleading, derogatory, or otherwise offensive matter.

Who decide if it is derogatory ?
This would forbide to leave negative references, even if motivated !

You may not use any personal, private information or other proprietary graphic
without express written permission.

Again pleonastic.

...; from the pan to the fire ...

Posted October 7th, 2012 - 6:02 pm by from Paris, France (Permalink)
Leo, you seem to misinterpret the meaning of the word "derogatory".

Posted October 7th, 2012 - 6:31 pm by from Florence, Italy (Permalink)
How would you define a reference of the kind
"not recommendable guest, always late, come home drunk and screaming in the night awaked neighbours, left stinky clothes in a common area annoying other guests, after his leave after staying two night i never found again the spare towels i leave for guests." ?

Posted October 7th, 2012 - 6:38 pm by from Paris, France (Permalink)
That reference sounds factual (based on a description of an experience, and a recommendation). Since I wasn't there I can't tell if it is an accurate description. It is unpleasant for the recipient.

Can we please keep this thread on the topic of terms of use?

Posted October 7th, 2012 - 6:45 pm by from Florence, Italy (Permalink)
This is not a real reference, but one that could fall within the term "derogatory" althought being still factual ...
Think about another "he stinks, has an ugly voice, he broke half the things he used, was unpleasant with the other guests" ...

Posted October 7th, 2012 - 9:47 pm by from Dijon, France (Permalink)
Leo,

It may be an interesting exercise to evaluate the Terms created by our fellow CS activist.

Their conception is not to exploit fellow CS members, but rather to confront CS management head-on, playing largely the same game as CS. Thereby revealing its ridiculousness. But also confronting CS with unilateral Terms which are potentially just as valid as theirs from a legal standpoint.

Written together with a lawyer, these member Terms are not designed to do harm to anyone, and will not do any harm to anyone. With the potential exception of the CS "owners" of your private data attempting to exploit us all, first by criminal theft, and now by criminal fencing.

David