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Yes Let's Move the Discussion off CS
Posted September 3rd, 2011 - 5:17 pm from Albuquerque, United States
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Posted September 3rd, 2011 - 5:27 pm by from Padova, Italy (Permalink)
Hey Valeri,

I created a wordpress at www.guerrillasurfing.com few days ago as an immediate backup plan in case CS admins freak out, shutting down all of this.

It is now still 'virgin'.

I really have no time to handle it by myslef, but we can put together a team of admins to be sure it will really be a clean free space.



Posted September 3rd, 2011 - 6:02 pm by from Seafield, Isle of Man (Permalink)
wordpress has bbPress for forum functionality but I haven't seen decent integration with mailing list functionality. from my experience having such hybrid of forum/mailing list makes it easy for everyone to participate the way they prefer to. i hope this project will get second brath: https://andrewsinlondon.wordpress.com/

Some people added such combo to elgg which you can try out here if you like: https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/702082/hospitality-networks/

I also know that drupal should have all the modules to run similar combo using: http://drupal.org/project/femail i've ask quaka to possibly setup forum using it on http://couchwiki.org

in any case I would also suggest using OpenID for making it easy to create an account...

Posted September 3rd, 2011 - 6:27 pm by from Padova, Italy (Permalink)
That's all insighful Pavlik.

CouchWiki looks good indeed.

Is it gonna stick to the Corporate CS, or will rather come to the bright side?


Posted September 3rd, 2011 - 7:51 pm by from Seafield, Isle of Man (Permalink)
couchwiki has no dependencies on CS, if you check the about page: http://couchwiki.org/en/Couchwiki:About you will find in the bottom:
"Not ruled by one person, not ruled by a for profit corporation"

AFAIK guys who work on BeWelcome have started it over 2 years ago..

Posted September 3rd, 2011 - 8:25 pm by from Padova, Italy (Permalink)
Perhaps a bit off-thread.

There's a lot of rumour going on about this BW migration.

Apart from the Associations ACT 1901, which would prevent them from selling, we have no guarantees they are not going through the very same CS way.

Do you feel like they won't, with a good margin of error?

If they will, all of this work is gonna be only partially useful...



Posted September 3rd, 2011 - 8:54 pm by from Seafield, Isle of Man (Permalink)
difference between BW and CS

1. BW has open source code, so if you don't like what happens on bewelcome.com you can put up a clone at your domain at any time.

2. I want to work with their new rewrite based on drupal to support federation protocols, I don't know if you know projects like diaspora* or StatusNet. At some point bewelcome.org may become just one of the nodes in decentralized network where everyone can join, any given node or put up one's own

3. I would like put some emphasis on portability of people's data and possibly take advantage of OpenPGP and other cryptographic technologies. While to get your profile exported from CS you will need to use some hack, in other services including BW I would like to see simple export and redirect. So you get archive with all your data and also mark your profile with something like HTTP 301 redirect which other capable networks will understand as moved to gurillasurfing/mahesh (for example) and update their pointers (most likely checking digital signature of this redirect but that maybe a bit to low level detail ATM)

So, at current state BW don't have those federation and portability features but since you have access to the source code you can contribute to developing them yourself or take initiative or finding other skilled developers who would like to help... With networks which run on closed source code like CS and all other hospitality networks that I currently know of, you don't have such freedom!

Posted November 13th, 2011 - 5:41 pm from Barcelona, Spain
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