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thanx marcus
Posted December 26th, 2007 - 5:33 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
it appears a person with no sense of humor was very close to destroying our merry little group of silly people and was stopped last minute due to the brave efforts of marcus.

thank you for saving us marcus :)
xoxox

i hereby dub thee: marcus the brave, hero and hunter of E tripple V

Posted December 26th, 2007 - 9:14 pm from North East, United States
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Posted December 26th, 2007 - 10:24 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
hehhehe i'll lick you back (with a british accent)

no spyro, no perving! i am your sister :)

Posted December 26th, 2007 - 10:54 pm by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
I'm NOT your Brother, so No perving is involved on my part, really,... MUHHahaha.

I can lick both of you, and with your boots on, and also with a British accent, and with a smile on my face as I feel it only my duty to serve!

When it comes to serving the two of you, and while you are wearing your boots, YUHHUUMM,... How could I not assume the position and role of service to both of you in my said duties and not enjoy the pleasure!?!

Posted December 26th, 2007 - 11:36 pm by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
Thank you Marcus!!, as it seems I unknowingly was on the sight, and looking at the group at the same time this person was reeking havoc, and apparently he was not quick enough. As I was correcting members statuses faster than he could delete them LOL!!

My Mother always said if you cant say anything nice, don't say anything at all, and since I'm not one to keep my mouth shut, here are a few positive words for this individual,..

What a @$$centric! A whole of a wonderful person we have met!
I have to say you can't find people like him everywhere, and are'nt are we lucky!

He is definitely a eunuch one of a kind person!

He's the type of person one should only meet once to always remember the good times we had when he was part of the group as to not spoil, or confuse our memory of such a eunuch individual!

I would love to invite him to a party sometime with some of my military buddies. We would have such good times with him getting to know all about us, and what we think about such wonderful people!
(I'm not the best at spelling, and sorry if there are some typo's in this post)

Posted December 27th, 2007 - 2:02 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
heehehe. who cares bout spelling. mine's almost as atrocious as my sourcerouseness and vegiterribleness :)

Posted December 27th, 2007 - 5:26 pm by from Sosua, Dominican Republic (Permalink)
who did it and with all due respect i wanna say


booooooooooobies

Posted December 27th, 2007 - 8:37 pm from North East, United States
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Posted December 29th, 2007 - 5:33 pm from Vienna, Austria
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Posted December 30th, 2007 - 7:36 am by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
Hey guys,
here's a interesting post I noticed in the Vegetarian, and vegans group about this subject I though you all would get a laugh out of.

http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=2040&post=598650


Posted December 30th, 2007 - 7:36 am by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
Hey guys,
here's a interesting post I noticed in the Vegetarian, and vegans group about this subject I though you all would get a laugh out of.

http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=2040&post=598650


Posted December 30th, 2007 - 7:40 am by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
But I have to add, I like SYROS, responce,

"BOOOOOOOOOOBIES"

And I look forward to meeting "THE GIRLS" one day!
They always look good to me, Left, and right!

Posted December 30th, 2007 - 6:48 pm by from Minneapolis, United States (Permalink)
Hmm...people pollute and cause all these problems in the world..
...and eating vegan and vegetarian is so good for the world and saves the rainforest, puppies, and sunshine...

Well, skip the fucking middleman here and just eat people! You'd be saving a whole bunch more of the world by just getting rid of people instead of just changing how you consume...just consume the consumers!

OBVIOUSLY WE ARENT CONDONING EATING PEOPLE. Sheesh, can't believe those people said that! But I just wanted to give a shot at using their philosophy too :)

Haha, well...long live the E triple V!!





Posted December 30th, 2007 - 6:48 pm by from Minneapolis, United States (Permalink)
and I like SYROS, its like if Spyro was a Greek Island!

Posted December 30th, 2007 - 11:39 pm from North East, United States
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Posted December 31st, 2007 - 3:25 am by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
Sorry about my spelling SPYRO! But this time I have a reason for it!,... I think I was drugged or something,...I'll explain,...

The reason I spelled SPYRO's name wrong was that one of you bit the tip of my finger on my right hand while I was sleeping that night, and the "P" is now hard for me to push down.

Thankfully for me I think the one/s responsible were girls, and were "eaters" of and within our group.
I think this because apparently they were not satisfied with just a nibble on my finger as I found they went on to eat something else of mine to satisfy there hunger.

When I woke up that next morning,..
I found my pants were half way down my legs,
my shirt was around my neck,
my hands were tied to the head board,
I had sucker marks on my abdominal area and torso,
and fingernail marks on my back and shoulders!

I also had a interesting dream about a Volcano continually erupting, and girls eating wieners while flying on a Big plane?!?. (Freud would be proud!)

I can't help but think I was also given some type of a bath with something velvety, warm, and wet, as I found when I awoke that I was "clean as a whistle that had been blown", and felt "VERY satisfied", and refreshed. (It was quite nice actually, very strange!),

Luckily for me I still had my socks on, and was ready "too go", as our training video told us to be!

(I have withheld possible suspects names, as you know who you are! That and the fact that I need "Black Mail" material for later adventures, LOL!

Posted December 31st, 2007 - 3:46 am from North East, United States
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Posted December 31st, 2007 - 7:29 am by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
This is my day job! I'm Retired, and fully pensioned. LOL.

Where should I travel to next? I need gas, flight, and hotel money! I already have all the time!

www.wherethehellismatt.com/

I want to do like this guy now does for a living. He travels and has pictures taken of him dancing (he cant dance, LOL), in front of world places for a gum company that's all, LOL. They pay for everything, LOL !!Seriously!
He does this, and plays video games, LOL. read his postings, and look at his videos!!

Anyone want to donate to the:

Young, retired, nice, good looking, has orange as his favorite color, I want to travel retirement fund for me? Cash is good, bank checks are excepted, and Gold bars are OK too.
Send it too me,.. at the: "I want to have everything paid for fund, in care of "I live in a dream world everyday!"
It will be forwarded automatically to the "Holy shit, somebody actually sent me money account!"




Posted December 31st, 2007 - 7:44 am by from Gerlach, United States (Permalink)
This is my day job!
I'm Retired from the military. I have been retired for 11 years now with Full pay due to a combat disability discharge retirement granted me by the military. (and yes I'm not a old guy. I'm still under 40, and yes I look 10 years younger than I am, LOL)

You have to read my profile!!! It has a lot of information that will surprise you, like teaching myself how to walk again, and trivial little things like that, LOL.



www.wherethehellismatt.com/

I want to do like "MATT" does for a living. He travels and has pictures taken of him dancing (he cant dance, LOL), in front of world places for a gum company that's all, LOL. They pay for everything, LOL !!Seriously!
He does this, and plays video games, LOL. read his postings, and look at his videos!!(I just need to come up with a gimmick accidentally like he did)


Where should I travel to next? I need gas, flight, Food, and hotel money! I already have all the time!

Anyone want to donate to the:

"Young, retired, nice, good looking, has orange as his favorite color, I want to travel retirement fund for me?"

Say, YES PLEASE!

Cash is good, bank checks are excepted, and Gold bars are OK too.
Send it too me,.. at the:

"I want to have everything paid for fund, in care of "I live in a dream world everyday!"
It will be forwarded automatically to the "Holy shit, somebody actually sent me money account!" For travel to Disney land, to visit my fairy god mother for three wishes.

Good night folks! I'll be here all week!,
and Don't forget to tip your wait staff before you leave!




Posted January 2nd, 2008 - 1:39 am by from Berlin, Germany (Permalink)
Dear posters,esteemed readers

I still feel like I have not read the whole discussion enough, in this group and in the EVVV one , and I take any constructive criticism seriously, so feel free to point out anything you might consider worth discussing. My final goal of this post is to set an end to all of the pandemonium that in fact I am responsible of, and thereby exonerate Bruno who has become a target of many let us call them “reactions”. This is going take a while you might want to get a cup of tea.

@chris, an anecdote I found apt:

"Here we are all gathered in what seems to be the centre of the storm
Neighbours once friendly now stand each side of the line that has been drawn
They’ve been fighting here for years, but now there’s killing on the streets
While small coffins are lined up sadly, now united in defeat

We always need to hear both sides of the story"


Both sides of the story - Phil Collins

@ all


so now without any further a due lets get to the point:
1. what happened on that ominous night:
I opened my mail account to find a lot of messages from a group that I have never heard nor read before. I was not very pleased with what I had to read, since from my point of view it had no significance for me. That is my point of view. Those were especially posts from this particular thread:
http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=8471&post=540846
I looked into the group setting and realized that it could have been anyone who invited me into the group because every single member holds the status of a moderator and apparently did not have the decency of setting my communication settings properly. Don’t get me wrong, I love Vienna and its surfers, been there more than once and met many wonderful people, but in this very instant I was just in a bad mood (happens to everyone once in a while) and I took the decision to take care of the situation, my goal was to contain the damage and not have anyone else being invited to this group, may it be silly/funny/annoying/offensive, opinions DO differ, and we all must acknowledge that.
As stated above, someone in the group started demoting moderators to members, that would have been me, I take full responsibility for it. Secondly I invited Bruno to the group and installed him as the only moderator just before demoting myself to a member and leaving the group. The only person who noticed the changes and contacted me was SPYRO (hi). When he contacted me, at this point I was the only person with the status of a moderator.

After installing Bruno as the only moderator, he took the decision to have the group removed, out of the concern that it might be offensive to some people in CS. Note, this was his decision and it is his personal opinion to do so. In order to fully understand what happened we both decided to disclose the emails he sent and received within the following hours.

The first mail went to a CS MIKKY MOUTH (his answer is listed first, Bruno’s question is posted below:

FROM CS AMBASSADOR: MIKKY MOUTH
PROFILE: www.couchsurfing.com/profile.html?id=LWVT0

RESPONSE:



Hello Bruno,

thank you very much for your enquiry!

while we understand that this group is offending you we need to tell you that CS do not Censor groups.

We are a bunch of drastically different people, all
learning how to cooperate, get along and understand
each other. Every time we don't communicate
effectively, we are one step farthur from the CS
mission.. every time we find a way to understand each
other, we are one step closer. CS is a mini-world...

That´s why i would recommend to contact the moderator of this group and maybe you would understand the purpose of this group then.

If the moderator do want to delete the group but don´t know how to do it, he should contact us.

So far i know, a couple of this groupmembers are vegetarians or vegans by themself and make fun of it.

please do not hesitate to contact us again if there any other question occures!

happy travels

Irie

Mikky Mouth
CouchSurfing.com Ambassador
www.couchsurfing.com/infomercial.html


TO REPLY: www.couchsurfing.com/contact.html?reply=30055&email=brunoest...


YOUR QUESTION:


I feel offended by this group: www.couchsurfing.com/group.html?gid=8471
and talked to the administrator for him to delete it but he doesn't know how, and i don't know how either, is it possible for you to do it?
YOUR PROFILE: www.couchsurfing.com/people/ranma
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Please note that at this point I was the administrator of the group, and when Bruno says he talked to the administrator he actually was talking to me.

After I installed him as moderator he contacted another CS volunteer, here is the message:

FROM CS AMBASSADOR: ...Mandy Live
PROFILE: www.couchsurfing.com/profile.html?id=1NNXMGK

RESPONSE:

Hello Bruno -

Couchsurfing policy is to not delete any group that still has other members in it. Of course you are free to change the description of the group, or the name if you are concerned with how it comes across.

Your other option is to have all 37 members of the group agree to leave it; if you are the only member left, we would be able to delete the group at your request.

We hope this information helps, and let us know if you have any further questions.

Happy Surfing!

Amanda
CouchSurfing Volunteer
TO REPLY: www.couchsurfing.com/contact.html?reply=30057&email=brunoest...


YOUR QUESTION:


I'm the moderator of the group www.couchsurfing.com/group.html?gid=8471
and decided that it may be offensive for some people, please delete it :)
YOUR PROFILE: www.couchsurfing.com/people/ranma

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After this did not work, we left the situation as it was overnight, to find the following mail in his inbox the next day, this time from Marcus Eder from Vienna:

>Marcus Eder Wrote:
>>I am a bit annoyed!
>>I think you don't get the joke and sarcasm in the
>>"Eaters of Vegan and Vegetarian" group. I am for live
>>and let live. If you have a problem than leave this
>>group and go. More than 50% of the people in this
>>group are vegetarians themselves. I look forward to
>>see the group having their old moderators back and you
>>unmarked as moderator tonight.
>>I see it as a big misuse
>>of the trust people have in moderators and ambassadors
>>to keep CS as open community for everybody. I do not
>>want to be friendlinked if you keep on behaving like
>>this.
>>I look forward to your post where you excuse for that
>>behavior.
>>Cheers, Marcus
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Bruno’s reply:

♥ Bruno Maiorana ♥ Wrote:
>
>I've promote everyone to moderators and left the group
>already.
>Nevertheless i still don't get the joke and still find
>it offensive and aggressive, too bad you don't
>understand my point of view.
>Anyway i assure you that i will not bother you guys
>anymore.
>Bruno.
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And Marcus one more time:

Thanks Bruno,
some people are vegans and others are eating meat. Some
people are homosexual others aren't than there are
nudists and people that find it offensive. If a person
finds it offensive if people are at a nudist beach well
than I would recommend them just to not go there....
Most people in the group did joke about themselves as
a vegan would never eat humans right? If there is a
group that is against some law than please send a CUQ [EDIT: CUQ = Contact us Questions].
If it is offensive outside the group than this could or
should be discussed as well. But within groups the
people should be able to talk about what they want as
long as it does not violate a law.
Thanks for that step.
I wish you merry christmas and a happy new year.
Cheers, Marcus

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So this is how far the communication between us and the officials go.

I hope this answers some questions asked in your post, Chris. I appreciate you did your homework and got so involved, so did we. We took your advice to read some of the “fun” going on in the EVVV group, like this for example posted by SPYRO:
http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=8471&post=611408#post611649

Spyro, really?

By Chris: http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=8471&post=611395

“This individual is so kind, and considerate in assuming things, and making judgments of individuals he does not know, never has talked to, and has never met”.
Isn’t this exactly what you are doing in the further post? Note, I am trying to be as objective as possible. Furthermore we found another post of yours, Chris, please open http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=8471&post=604114#post604847 .

“My Mother always said if you can’t say anything nice, don't say anything at all, and since I'm not one to keep my mouth shut, here are a few positive words for this individual”.

What follows is offensive and inappropriate and should not be posted in a CS group. Especially the part where you say: “I would love to invite him to a party sometime with some of my military buddies. We would have such good times with him getting to know all about us, and what we think about such wonderful people!”

By saying this you are disrespecting Bruno’s integrity as a person, and his inviolability, and THAT certainly does not contribute to the goals this network has set itself. Call it over-interpretation, but in between the lines you are threatening to harm another human being just because he thinks different than you do and expresses his opinion.

And now, finishing, I would like to speak off the record.

Probably I am not a good mediator in this very situation, of course I would take side with Bruno, after all we were partners in this “crime”. I know that in this post I said that it is vital to respect the opinion and the freedom of others, and it is and always will be an eternal discussion to decide where personal freedoms begin and where they end. Do they end the moment they meet another person’s personal freedoms, contradict those or even violate them? I say: It depends. I must say, dealing with this whole situation made me think about my own actions. When I reset the moderator status of the group I did not expect such a great uproar within this group. I still wonder how some of us can get agitated about things that happen in a little virtual world like this. I don’t mean to preach but there are bigger problems on our planet. In the process of creating this post I realized that both parties don’t live up to what they preach. We are all part of this wonderful network and we are here to make an effort together. Let us all learn from our mistakes, in my eyes this is a win-win situation because we all have the opportunity to learn and grow. The discussion discloses that there are conflicts within the community; some conflicts will not be resolved, not even in the lifetime of a human being. However, it is important we discuss our conflicts in a civilized manner. I appreciate everyone’s input on trying to reach a consensus that all parties can be happy with.
Thus I appeal to each and everyone involved to take this as a valuable lesson and in the future to double-check what we are saying/writing, whom to and in what possible way this might affect this individual and possibly other uninvolved individuals. I for myself certainly learned that impulsive reactions can be dangerous. Sometimes it is hard to hold back, but this ability – to control your emotions - is what separates a civilized species from wild animalist behaviour.

“Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is why so few engage in it.”
~ Henry Ford

Thank you Henry for that thoughtful contribution, I am sure we will all keep it in mind and realize that we all have grown a little bit.

Thank you all for reading, and be sure to leave thoughtful comments. Happy new year to all of you and may you have many beautiful moments with CS in 2008.

Patryk and Bruno


Posted January 2nd, 2008 - 1:32 am by from Mengzi, China (Permalink)

I probably should have thought things over twice before what we did that night, and also before opening this post here, so I apologize (again) to all of you for the problems or misunderstandings.
It is waaay too much energy we are wasting in all of this, let's try to focus it on something productive like helping people.

Bruno ^_^

Posted January 2nd, 2008 - 2:23 am from North East, United States
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Posted January 2nd, 2008 - 11:06 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
dearest couchsurfers,

so we are basically all agreed. CSers above all know how different individuals exist and how they work in different ways. And how we are greatful for difference as it is the spice of life and a gift.

(We should also bear in mind that some non-native speakers find it harder than others to pick up on sarcasm, irony, a bit of harmless fun which has nothing to do with level of profficiency but rather with the fairly indescribable alice in-wonderlandesque ability to pick up rather subtle nuances.)

Hey and it really was kinda exciting. Which group has a history like this one?

Great that we all got this ability to learn. To be honest, i learned a lot.

Let us all be merry and shake hands (virtually) and again... all the best for 2008. May we all be provided with many learning and growing experiences.
But not too many as we all need time to breathe in between :)


Love to all (including ex-members),
the lady sourceress

Posted January 2nd, 2008 - 9:15 am by from Minneapolis, United States (Permalink)
People will truly find any excuse to get upset...

I just can't believe that people thought that we were seriously discussing cannibalism (Seriously?!) and couldn't see that this is a joke (AND I DIDN'T SAY YOU HAD TO FIND IT FUNNY).

I suggest that the people who got so upset about this take a moment and smell the roses. There are much more important things to worry about than a few people in Vienna making a joke. Even if its only funny to them.

Thank you so much Marcus :)

Abe

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Posted January 2nd, 2008 - 7:29 pm by from Minneapolis, United States (Permalink)
Yay!! Welcome back Nagelfar! We sure could you use in this group!
This group was created for people like you, and I think you'll find this group to be a welcome place for us all to act like dicks :)
Woohoo!

E Triple V: Where everyone is allowed to act like a dick :)

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Posted January 3rd, 2008 - 6:23 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
and happy time wasting to us all...

and let's all stop the thinking :)

huggiebuggies with bbq sauce

Posted January 3rd, 2008 - 9:26 am by from Minneapolis, United States (Permalink)
...sounds to me like You're the one who's smoked for hours.

Posted January 4th, 2008 - 2:47 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
eat´em all!
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.
.
so they will stop complaining...

Regards and MAHLZEIT

Posted January 4th, 2008 - 3:00 am from North East, United States
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Posted January 4th, 2008 - 1:49 pm by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
hhehehehehe

i'm with mister darling wolfe on this one.
cut all the blah blah ing

eat em!

busy with work
the sourceress cannotfindanything

Posted January 4th, 2008 - 8:56 pm from North East, United States
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Posted January 5th, 2008 - 1:29 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
Hi

I am looking for the frozen peas....

I was told, they are on isle 14....

Would sharon please come to checkout 12...

S.

Posted January 5th, 2008 - 1:38 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
Hi

I am looking for the frozen peas....

I was told, they are on isle 14....

Would Sharon please come to checkout 12...

S.

Posted January 5th, 2008 - 2:16 am by from Vienna, Austria (Permalink)
haahahhahaa
add the peas. peas turn me on :p

dunno 'bout that sharon girl, tho. seems a bit of a lazy bitch.
i'm workin me arse off and she just goes off watching the nurses getting changed next door....

what was i talking about earlier?